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To: LostTribe
You persist in the same error. The tribe of Judah was NEVER part of the House of Israel.

Geez, talk about revisionist history...Name the twelve sons of Jacob/Israel without naming Judah.

All 12 Tribes were ISRAELITES, but only the 10 "Lost Tribes" were designated House of Israel

Not true. The tribe of Judah might not have been lost, but it was part of the House of Israel and was scattered. I'd love to see the contortions you'll need to master in order to disregard David's many references to the House of Israel in Samuel, let alone the many references in Exodus, Leviticus, etc. Lastly, you'll have a hard time convincing people that Jews would worship from a book that clearly shows G_d's preference for the House of Israel over the "House of Judah" (sic).

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not Jews, but were Hebrews. Some Jews are Hebrews, but not all Hebrews are Jews.

Agreed.

Where then were these "Lost Tribes" at the time of Christs arrival? Enlightenment is only a click away, at my Profile.

No need - you have amply demonstrated your confusion.

300 posted on 12/12/2001 12:33:29 PM PST by Nephi
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To: Nephi
>Geez, talk about revisionist history...Name the twelve sons of Jacob/Israel without naming Judah.

The Tribe of Judah was not part of the Northern Kingdom thus was not one of the 10 Lost Tribes.

All 12 Tribes were ISRAELITES, but only the 10 "Lost Tribes" were designated House of Israel

>Not true. The tribe of Judah might not have been lost, but it was part of the House of Israel and was scattered.

Different diaspora. Gotta get your history right, first.

> I'd love to see the contortions you'll need to master in order to disregard David's many references to the House of Israel in Samuel, let alone the many references in Exodus, Leviticus, etc.

You will never understand the Old Testament until you separate the peoples both by tribe and by time. After the Northern Kingdom was gone the OT frequently uses Israel to mean the SOUTHERN Kingdom since they were all that were left. Doesn't change the meaning of the earlier references.

>Lastly, you'll have a hard time convincing people that Jews would worship from a book that clearly shows G_d's preference for the House of Israel over the "House of Judah" (sic).

BOTH HOUSES WERE BAD AND BOTH WERE PUNISHED, but in different ways. You gotta get the promises straight or will never understand this. The House of Israel (Northern Kingdom, Lost Tribes, The Celts, todays Europeans and Americans) received different promises than the House of Judah. It's a whole big additional story, but begins with The House of Israel getting the Inheritance, the Name, and the promise of becoming a nation larger than the "stars of the sky and sand of the sea", and more. The House of Judah did not receive that promise. It received the "right to rule and reign", among others. There is much more...

The book "Missing Links Discovered In Assyrian Tablets" found in my Profile is an excellent and authoritative primer, in addition to your Bible.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not Jews, nor were even the 12 sons including Judah, but they were Hebrews. Some Jews are Hebrews, but not all Hebrews are Jews.

>Agreed.

301 posted on 12/13/2001 6:16:40 PM PST by LostTribe
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