Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"
John 10:33-36 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"
Jesus is quoting from Psalm 82
Unfortunately the gods mentioned in Psalm 82 are 'wicked', and why did Jesus say 'is it not written in your law'??? Psalms is NOT Law!!!! The first 5 books are Torah/Law!
Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"
I presume I don't need to show you where Son of Man is used to refer to good guys as well. You belittle yourself more than me with this weak argument.
John 10:33-36 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods ? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"
Jesus is quoting from Psalm 82The same words were used regarding the archtypes, that were used regarding Jesus. Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" John 10:33-36 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods ? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" Jesus is quoting from Psalm 82
Unfortunately the gods mentioned in Psalm 82 are 'wicked', and why did Jesus say 'is it not written in your law'??? Psalms is NOT Law!!!! The first 5 books are Torah/Law!
You raise two points here. For the first, Yeshua was pointing out to them that, even in their Scriptures, the prophet refers to the sons of men as gods. I agree with you that this is not an attempt to say that men are Gods, as the LDS church teaches. But Yeshua is merely saying that if the writer of the Psalm was not blaspheming in this passage, which the Jews considered Holy, then He could not be blaspheming by calling the one whom G-d has sanctified a Son of G-d. I trust this point was clear. Also, note again that Yeshua gives all the glory to G-d.
Unfortunately the gods mentioned in Psalm 82 are 'wicked', and why did Jesus say 'is it not written in your law'??? Psalms is NOT Law!!!! The first 5 books are Torah/Law!
This is your other point, and another of the reasons that I don't like these kinds of posts. We still are not done with the archetype question and you are trying to move on. In the passage quoted we are only told that Yeshua was speaking with "The Jews." To John, "The Jews" meant the residents of Judea. We do not know the scholarly make-up of the crowd. We know that Torah is the first five books of Moses. Yeshua knew that also. However we don't know what the crowd new nor how they referred to the Psalms. For all I know, they believed the entire TANAK was Law. If you know otherwise (scholarly research, not personal speculation) then I am open to learning it. But later. It is not part of the original point.
Shalom.
The history of the Jews is a history of rebellious children. They killed their own prophets and turned their backs on God regularly. After seeing all the miracles of the Exodus, after observing the pillar of fire, they made an idol out of their posessions and said "This is the god that led us out of Egypt." For a time they were so absolutely corrupt, they even discarded their own Scriptures, put idols in God's temple and practiced sacred prostitution.
ArGee & I understand that we, non-Jews are no better than those rebellious children. You, ET, on the other hand, give the impression that somehow you are different than your ancestors --yet you are not.
No one can be forced to believe the truth nor should they be forced to embrace a lie. We are aware of what the Jews do to their own if they get too close to Christianity. It is not as uncivilized as what the Moslems do but it is enough to hold most in check. I do not fault you for adhering to your position. May your eyes be opened as were those of Saul of Tarsus.