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Intercepts revealed plan for great devastation
nzherald.co.nz ^ | 110601 | By DAVID USBORNE

Posted on 11/06/2001 5:59:22 AM PST by Missy35

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=226665&thesection=news&thesubsection=world Intercepts revealed plan for great devastation

05.11.2001 By DAVID USBORNE

A series of intercepted telephone conversations between suspected members of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network prompted President George W. Bush's decision to order a general terror alert for the United States last week.

The calls indicated an attack against America that would be more devastating than the September 11 atrocities.

While the intelligence from the telephone calls was chilling, officials wrangled for hours over whether the public should hear about it.

A general warning issued by Attorney-General John Ashcroft on October 11 drew sharp criticism from some Congressmen who complained that the warning then was too vague to be of much use to the authorities but sufficiently ominous to unsettle already nervous Americans.

But Mr Bush decided the latest alert had to be put out.

Transcripts of the intercepts have not been made available but officials said they were especially frightening.

The FBI was opposed to issuing a country-wide alert while nothing more specific could be made available.

The agency feared that law enforcement authorities around the country would be irritated by a warning that had no substance.

Last week, the Governor of California, Gray Davis, made public a confidential warning that had been conveyed to him and to seven other western states by the FBI.

The warning said terrorists might be planning attacks on suspension bridges on the west coast.

The governor's announcement triggered charges that he was overreacting and sowing panic unnecessarily among Californians.

But there is speculation that nothing happened after the alert on October 11 because whatever had been allegedly planned by al Qaeda was either postponed or cancelled after some of its operatives were caught in the international anti-terror operation and arrested.

While most cities across America were already on very high alert, the alert last week may have galvanised officials once more to be on their toes.

No-flight zones were established around all of America's nuclear power plants and the Sears Tower in Chicago, now the country's tallest skyscraper.


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To: Sal
Do you have a link to this calendar or any more info ? Thanks in advance.
41 posted on 11/06/2001 8:56:38 AM PST by keeper53
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To: nepdap
It sure ain't chicken-pox. I live in the Silicon Valley area. All I can think right now is -- GO BIOTECH! I hope to God our best scientific minds see this and are inspired to search for the key to this potential plague! (and no, they will not do it for free!)
42 posted on 11/06/2001 9:00:08 AM PST by Jerez
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To: Dog Gone
I hope that's it instead of some information that someone infected with smallpox is attempting to seek entry into the country today.

Smallpox would be indiscriminate as to borders, religions, race, everything. A massive outbreak would quickly become a global problem.

So I'm wondering how it would serve terrorist ambitions to unleash smallpox on the U.S., when we have (or soon will have) vaccines for everyone. Third world countries - which also harbor the most fanatic of Muslim populations - would be the most devastatingly affected by smallpox, or any other communicable disease.

The Islamic terrorist nutcases would soon be recognized by the world (not to mention their own religion) as the most evil people in human history. And most of their destruction would boomerang right back to their own followers and families.

43 posted on 11/06/2001 9:02:56 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor
If we get enough vaccines in place, we almost certainly assure that there will be no attack using smallpox. It's a gun pointed straight back at the sender.

On the flip side, I guess if there is an outbreak somewhere and we're immune to it, we'll probably get blamed for causing it. We can live with that.

44 posted on 11/06/2001 9:11:21 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
But there is speculation that nothing happened after the alert on October 11 because whatever had been allegedly planned by al Qaeda was either postponed or cancelled after some of its operatives were caught in the international anti-terror operation and arrested.

Can we relax yet?

Haven't some of these operatives been released? Then the answer to your question would be "NO!"

45 posted on 11/06/2001 9:12:11 AM PST by Salvation
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To: seoseo
Thanks. I know there are many targets: electric and gas supplies, nuclear plants, bridges, water conduits and dams..the list goes on.
46 posted on 11/06/2001 9:12:15 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: keeper53

The original calendar appeared in the Netherlands and was reported in the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf. For those who can't read Dutch, it was also reported at Newsmax.com.

47 posted on 11/06/2001 9:14:35 AM PST by Alouette
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To: Alouette
Thank you very much for the information and links. Very interesting stuff....
48 posted on 11/06/2001 9:26:12 AM PST by keeper53
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To: michaelje
School buses are only one target. I'm sure there are many others but warnings have come to the intercessors regarding our school children and we need to be alert in this area (as well in a thousand others). M
49 posted on 11/06/2001 9:32:33 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Sal
I'd love to have you tell me that a sky-camouflaged balloon couldn't possibly be an effective weapon...

Okay, no problem. A sky-camouflaged balloon can't possibly be an effective weapon. There. Feel better? :-)

Welcome back, Sal. Long time, no see.

The greatest fear is always of the unknown, and unless we get some major intelligence breakthrough, the intent of the terrorists will continue to remain unknown. We're just going to have to learn to live with uncertainty for the foreseeable future. Sorta like the early settlers on the early frontier 200 years ago - plow the land with a musket strapped to your back.

I don't believe for one minute that WTC was the last shot to be taken at us in this mess. I expect there to be more. I stay alert, I notice anyone in my area who is new and unknown, and I pay attention to what's happening around me. 'Course, that's nothing new for me, but we can all learn to live like that. It becomes second nature, after which life on the surface returns to almost normal.

Even so, the world changed on 9/11, and we can't turn back the clock. We can only go forward.

So, what the hey - let's go! :-)

50 posted on 11/06/2001 9:48:44 AM PST by logos
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To: logos
Hi Jon. I've been wondering where you were in all this mess. Several times I've almost pinged you to come and calm everybody down. You have a great way of "calming the waters" so to speak. I've actually not been as paranoid as some, and that is probably because I remember so vividly the days of WWII. This too shall pass. Life has never been without risks and God never promised us it would be easy. It is in our weakness that we find strength. Maybe some will recognize this now. Hope you are well. Peace.
51 posted on 11/06/2001 10:30:12 AM PST by WVNan
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To: RevNan
Hi, Nan. I've been "around" - but had to deal with a rather nasty dental problem for a couple of weeks, which really took me out of the mood for FReepin'. Also been busy ecclesiastically, as it were, but ... it looks like the good guys are gonna win. How 'bout that?!

Good to hear from you again.

52 posted on 11/06/2001 10:42:22 AM PST by logos
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Not sure what it could be but shooting down passenger planes with shoulder launched SAM's on the day before Thanksgiving is one thing to watch out for, since that's the busiest travel date of the year. Who knows? Maybe the chinese have given them a new super killer virus we have no antidote for yet? America is a target rich environment and there are many weapons.
53 posted on 11/06/2001 10:42:30 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: logos
The good guys always win. We read the story. Sorry about your dental problem. Hope it is taken care of permanently. I had all of my dental problems removed a long time ago, and it's great. I've been busy too, with Charge Conference (finally over, thank God). I'm trying to take a few days off this next week, but you know the busy season is coming up. See you around.
54 posted on 11/06/2001 11:21:09 AM PST by WVNan
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To: logos
Hi Logos. Glad to be back and thanks for your great reply. I agree that we have to keep going as normally as possible, but with greater awareness of what's going on around us.

That calendar was one of the things we need to notice IMO, and that's why I keep thinking of those balloons. I'm trying to be practical, not hysterical. I guess what I'm hoping for is that security guards remember to look up once in a while in the day time and maybe run sweeping search lights into the airspace around sensitive targets at night. Some businesses do that just to attract customers, so it can't cost too much.

55 posted on 11/06/2001 11:28:25 AM PST by Sal
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To: Missy35; *Anthrax_Scare_List
I think they might use Anthrax again, it has been effective!

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56 posted on 11/06/2001 11:39:11 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Alouette
Thanks! I've ben wondering what else was in that infamous calendar but haven't seen any further reference to it, just the newsmax story which focused solelyt upon September.

Does anyone know if this story was reported anywhere else? I'd have thought that something this sensational would have been picked up by many journalists, but no...

Also, is there any place online with enlargements of these photos? I'm familiar with the September illustration, but not with the two others. Can someone tell me what these other two illustrations contain, as I can't make out anything on them.

Thanks.

57 posted on 11/06/2001 11:40:13 AM PST by meridia
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To: logos
Hi Logos,

As it seems you have a fan club, I was curious and had to check out your profile.
Anyone with a hopeful outlook and a C.S. Lewis link is okay with me!

DOE

58 posted on 11/06/2001 11:43:09 AM PST by DaughterofEve
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To: Missy35
Well the good thing is that if the terrorists had smallpox, they surely would't be wasting their time with this anthrax stuff. Though I certainly would not object to immunization on a national scale, just in case. Why did we stop innoculation in the first place?
59 posted on 11/06/2001 11:44:53 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: keeper53; Alouette
Alouette, thanks for the link and especially for the picture.

Here is a link to a FR posting of the NewsMax article that Alouette linked for us and it includes Freeper responses. See reply #17: the October picture there is a little bigger and you can see the details better. It shows a battle with a bright explosion, two towers (cooling towers?), helicopters, and 3 hot air balloons. Two more pictures for later months are on reply #51.

60 posted on 11/06/2001 11:45:33 AM PST by Sal
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