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they'll drop it in New York. They'll drop it right here -- right in the place where we sit.

Drop it from what? A magic carpet?

Acquiring the nuke is the hard part. Delivering the nuke is the harder part.

And lets face facts, Bibi, they're going for Israel first. Then maybe NYC.

Best that we nip the whole problem in the bud though, and that is what we are doing slowly and methodically. A little too slowly maybe, but we'll get it done.

[IcommGen]

Nope. They would definately hit America first. 9-11 was in America, not Israel. America is the 'big satan', Israel is only the little one. They figure that taking out America effectively takes out Israel too.

Also, it would probably be much easier to get a nuke into the U.S. then into Israel. America has very large borders, and can't possibly patrol them all air-tight. Israel can't either, but never-the-less, security/per kilometer of border is much better there.

And finally, while i'm sure America would totally lose it and do something horrible to them in return, I'm not so sure how it would play out. I mean if they couldn't figure out who did it... like with 9-11 (for a few weeks) or the Anthrax, who would they nuke? I doubt that they would nuke everyone... i don't know maybe...

On the other hand... if they nuked Israel, that would pretty much be the end of the State... so at that point I think there is little doubt Israel would let their birds fly towards every single Arab state... regardless of who did it, or whether they could figure it out at all.

[rebdov]

I disagree. They want to target the US before Israel. They believe that if the US falls Israel must also fall like in dominoes. Read their literature. America is the Great Satan, whereas Israel is only the little Satan.

The word 'drop' doesn't have to mean from a plane. A well placed dirty bomb in any number of abandoned warehouses in NYC would be an ideal location to drop a bomb.

And Bibi is so right. The only thing preventing OBL from using a dirty bomb is that he doesn't have one, but if that should happen, he is willing to risk all.

[IcommGen]

Oh and btw, I don't think by 'drop it' he was saying literally drop it, like from a plane or missile.

Just that they would set it off. Could be by truck. You know, get it past the borders. I mean 1000's of pounds of drugs get in every year, it isn't so ridiculous to figure a couple hundred pound bomb could be smuggled in.

Then just rent a van, load it up, and take a trip to NYC.

[DB]

It is easy to deliver. Simply put it on a fright ship and take the ship into New York harbor. One could do the same thing in the San Francisco bay as well. I'm tired of people saying they can't deliver one if they had one. It would be easy.

[.45MAN]

Maybe you don't realize it but both the Russians and the US have low level tactical nukes that can be carried in, in a back pack. This is not science fiction, these have been around for quite a few years... The Russians are missing a number of these possible sold to the highest bidder over the last few years. They don't need planes just a body. How many people in New York are on the street with backpacks?

[mamelukesabre]

Delivering a nuke is not a problem at all for a gang of suicide bombers. All they have to do is carry it by hand to their target and then push the button. But this doesn't mean that we have lost either. It is certain that they don't have many nukes, if any. And the ones that they may have are sure to be smaller ones. So if they have nukes and are able to use them successfully, then what? They will have no more nukes left and will have only succeeded in waking a giant. It would be an all-out war to erradicate every military of muslim nations and every muslim terrorist group with any weapons what so ever. Their cause would be damned the instant they use nukes.

[ColdSteelTalon]

Acquiring the nuke is the hard part. Delivering the nuke is the harder part.

Small Nukes can be carried in trunks and even suitcases. It is a fact that the Soviets invented nukes like this. And many of the scientists from the former Soviet Union are now working for Iraq. And besides you only need one big enough to destroy a financial center like New York, to cause suffering both in lives and financially.

And lets face facts, Bibi, they're going for Israel first. Then maybe NYC.

How do you know this for sure? Muslims in the Middle East feel they need to take out America First in order to destroy Israel.

Best that we nip the whole problem in the bud though, and that is what we are doing slowly and methodically. A little too slowly maybe, but we'll get it done.

You should stop watching CNN so much. This kind of a war does not happen overnight and it certainly is going to take years.

[anapikoros]

Unfortunately delivery is easy - as simple as a truck on Broadway or a ship in the Hudson.

[mmmmmmmm....... donuts]

Bibi is definiely a scare monger, but of course OBL and crew go for America first, for this simple reason: you nuke Israel, and al-Quds (the ARabic name for Jerusalem is gone). Strangely, the presence of Arabs nearby protects Israel, you can't design nukes to 'only' get Jews without killing a lot of Muslims too.

[Bon mots]

Drop it from what? A magic carpet?

A shipping container, or even a boat. All it has to do is get up the East River, Harlem River, or Hudson.

[Lazamataz]

Delivering the nuke is the harder part.

Not so long as you can afford a frieght vessel.

Port cities are easy targets.