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Terrorists Attacked Gun Control Movement
Fox News ^ | 11/4/01 | Glenn Harlan Reynolds

Posted on 11/04/2001 9:07:21 AM PST by jimkress

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: henderson field
Dig around the UN site and get educated. It's all there if you know where to look.
21 posted on 11/04/2001 10:34:01 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: henderson field
"...Catholics are against guns - the Irish especially - look no further than the Bradys and Rosie O'Donnell. Their fellow-Catholics do nothing to help them reform."

You forgot the Kennedys. However, if you honestly think these people are representative of Catholic mainstream thought, you are woefully misinformed. Elitists of *every* faith tend to be anti-gun.

I've never looked at the gun-control/religion connection very hard, but it seems that if there are more Protestants in the country than Catholics, then there *will* be more anti-gun Protestants.

22 posted on 11/04/2001 10:58:37 AM PST by Cloud William
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Hopefully not. I did some research on it out and found that the Catholic Church permits killing for purposes of self-defense. When I decided to carry concealed, it was comforting to find out that the Church doesn't expect me to self-sacrifice in a life or death situation.
23 posted on 11/04/2001 11:01:10 AM PST by dansangel
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To: dansangel
#7

The reason it took 9/11 was that event made it clear that the world is a dangerous place, there are people who want to do us harm, we have to protect ourselves.

Prior to 9/11, Americans lived in a fantasy world where Americans believed that no one would hurt us because all we wanted was to be their friend. American felt that if Americans played nice with other countries that those other countries would be nice to Americans. Americans also assumed that the vast, beneficent government would protect them from all harm and they did not need to protect themselves.

The events of 9/11 disabused rational Americans of these silly, childish, dangerous, and ultimately fatal notions.

Now, Americans realize it's a dangerous world. They realize that we are responsible for protecting ourselves and that an armed populace is the first line of defense against our enemies.

24 posted on 11/04/2001 11:03:18 AM PST by jimkress
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To: jimkress
I want my damn M16 back! (stomping and spitting in Ct)
25 posted on 11/04/2001 11:05:17 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jimkress
I absolutely agree. I guess my question was rhetorical. It still is just a darn shame it took something like that to wake up the gun-grabbers.

Thanks for the article, btw. It's encouraging, but we still have a long way to go.

26 posted on 11/04/2001 11:08:18 AM PST by dansangel
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To: jimkress
If I have read the news rightly, here on FR and elswhere, a LOT of people just purchased their first firearm ever.

Now that they are gun owners they may be less apt to vote for idiots who want to take their guns away. I hope.

27 posted on 11/04/2001 11:16:33 AM PST by LibKill
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To: henderson field
Religious organizations were targeted almost a century ago by the communist international to infiltrate and subvert national and international leadership of the same. Today you see the fruits(literaly) of their labor.
28 posted on 11/04/2001 11:44:57 AM PST by martian_22
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To: jimkress
That's a well written positive article. A poignant test of his hypothesis of these cultural shifts will take place on Tuesday in New Jersey. There we'll get to observe the most loyal disciples of Rosie go to the polls and vote with their television and coffee clutch sound bites running through their heads. If the tone of my last sentence wasn't indication enough, I really believe New Jersey has jumped off the deep end, or has lost all remnants of the "traditional American culture", in the state where the terrorist cells live and operate amongst us, we have NJ State Assembly and Senator candidates advertising their MMM endorsements 3 times an hour on the big three networks.
29 posted on 11/04/2001 11:58:08 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: henderson field
Catholics are against guns - the Irish especially - look no further than the Bradys and Rosie O'Donnell. Their fellow-Catholics do nothing to help them reform. And let's be frank. They didn't come here to build a great nation. The great nation was already built. They came to suck the money.

Nice little xenophobic bigoted diatribe. Do you customarily try to convert people to your point of view by stereotyping and insulting them?

I'm not Irish, but I am Catholic. And a gun owner. And a proud member of the NRA.

Molon labe.

30 posted on 11/04/2001 12:09:55 PM PST by Campion
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To: jimkress
66% feel that people who have passed a background check and taken a safety course should be able to carry a gun on their person or in their car.

AMENDMENT II

A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Missouri Constitution Article I BILL OF RIGHTS Section 23

May 28, 1999

Right to keep and bear arms--exception.

Section 23. That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.

1-the definition of "bear" is: to carry on one's person

2-the definition of "shall" is: ...a promise, a requirement, or an obligation

3-the definition of "not" is: used to express negation, denial, refusal, or prohibition

Missouri and U.S. citizen's do not have to wait to be allowed "to carry a gun on their person or in their car.

It is rather obvious and unambigous, that the right to carry an arm, especially in full view, on your hip, cannot be prohibited by the U.S. government or the Missouri government, or for either governments to require a background check and a safety course before being "allowed' to exert your right.

What part of "shall not be infringed," and "shall not be questioned," do you not understand?

"Shall not" is a categorical phrase. The definition of "categorical" is: "being without exception or qualification; absolute."

Why wait for permission from the "majority?" This is not a democracy. We all have the individual right. So, let's exert it. I am.

31 posted on 11/04/2001 12:52:40 PM PST by tahiti
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To: Jolly Rodgers
I'm a Christian (like in independant Bible-based Christian), and I'm all for gun ownership and self defense. I believe the Bible promotes it!

Gunowners.org: The Bible and Gun Control
32 posted on 11/04/2001 8:00:29 PM PST by VRWC_Member428
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To: jimkress
Thanks!!!

BLOAT

FMCDH

MOLON LABE

David Wright

33 posted on 11/09/2001 5:47:13 PM PST by dcwusmc
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