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To: honway; OKCSubmariner; AtticusX; alien2; Judge Parker; golitely; thinden; zog
The reason that Republicans sometimes cover for Democrats and Denocrats sometimes cover for Republicans is not complicated, and you nailed it:

"If all that you know and have effectively reported concerning OKC was revealed to the public at large, confidence in our government by the masses would be irrevocably shaken. The result would negatively effect the existing power structure and our economy."

Those currently and recently in power, both Republican and Democrat, have been successful because the rules of the game -- and the essential illusions of the electorate -- favor them. If either the rules or the illusions change, they might lose their grip. The whole truth about any one of a number of longstanding converups -- living American POWs abandoned in enemy hands, CIA drug running, Inslaw-Promis, BCCI, Waco, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, WTC I, OKC bombing, TWA800 -- would certainly change the illusions, and no one in the power structure of either party is going to let that happen.

147 posted on 11/04/2001 3:17:45 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: LSJohn; Judge Parker; BlueDogDemo; OKCSubmariner; rdavis84; Wallaby; golitely; Fred Mertz
been out of pocket. thanx for all the flags to such an outstanding thread. I'm pretty much back up to speed.

best regards to all.

special prayers to Judge Parker. if that mountain livin can get ya that close to 100, I'll take it!

149 posted on 11/04/2001 3:58:12 PM PST by thinden
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To: LSJohn
--I AM happy that at least in the case of okc there are starting to be rumbles out of higher areas in government. You simply can't have thousands killed and the nation scared, and the obvious lack of followups on the various terrs, and not have people in government who are patriots notice the discrepancies. Those people are getting MAD as well, and with some of their own bosses and with the policies that have been in place for years and years. Government failures and past globalist goon policies are now killing people, openly, and it's being seen. Happy to say it, it's looking like maybe more and more that the cover-up/crook factions in government are being challenged openly by the patriot/honest people. It's still at a public low level, but in private I'd bet a nickel it's building up some steam. Wouldn't bother me for a second for them to do a reverse slow stage counter-coup, or fast for that matter, and take back government "for the people". Yes, risky, but if enough of them can be made to see the light and demand honesty, to not be afraid to speak out, to build coalitions, then we have a chance. I sincerely hope it's going on now. We just need to put that cyber-lever into that crack in the dam better, and keep adding pressure, eventually that crack will widen and perhaps reality will spill out more. Two things will help cause that to happen, my opinion, one, if people can stop being blind party loyalists, admit that sometimes their party or their particular leaders are 'wrong" on this or that issue, and two, convince enough folks in government to grow back a set of nads and openly challenge the bogus crap that they see goping on.

I would seek more allies, and less divisiveness, without forgetting about the scandals and crookedness. With the reality of the wtc attacks, the vast numbers of thoroughly wrong and shouldn't be here furriners slinking around conus, etc, it's starting to be too hard for those plutocrats to keep a lid on things. Too many nco level grunts in the bureaucracies of the agencies held out for years, held their noses during the slimers admin, now that they are seeing that the shenanigans continue, I think they are raising an internal ruckus.

If we can just really get a single one of the coverups cracked, and get some high level official moronic goons put in jail, it might start the snowball downhill into avalanche reality. We're starting to crack the media monopoly, this whole internet deal was a miscalculation on the goons part, it's allowing people to exchange ideas and information. Yep, they are trying to plug the loopholes, but are several steps behind in technology, carnivore or whatnot not withstanding.

We ARE having a good effect..The information IS getting out. Even the professional and true-believer pro fascist government shills are getting desparate, their coverup-itis attempts are more pitiful by the day.

169 posted on 11/05/2001 5:48:09 AM PST by zog
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