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Gun Control After September 11
FOXNEWS ^ | Friday, November 2, 2001 | Glenn Harlan Reynolds

Posted on 11/02/2001 9:09:31 PM PST by Scalia Rules

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"I think all women oughta carry a cell phone and a three-fifty-seven. Loaded." So declares a woman interviewed by The New Republic's Michelle Cottle.

That statement seems to sum up the post-Sept. 11 attitude toward gun control. Things were already tough for the gun-control movement. Convinced that Al Gore's strong anti-gun stance had cost the Democratic Party the 2000 election, the Democratic Leadership Council had already called for a softer line on gun control. Bill Clinton and former White House spokesman Joe Lockhart had pronounced Gore's stance a mistake. Meanwhile, product-liability suits brought against gun manufacturers were failing miserably in courts from New York to California.


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To: Native American Female Vet
Are you sure you want to try to steal my guns, leftist parasites? Are you sure you're willing to stake your lives on the proposition that I can't and won't outshoot you?
121 posted on 11/04/2001 9:30:55 AM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: Scalia Rules
Crime in Texas dropped dramatically after conceal carry passed. Armed, law abiding citizens is the reason Japan didn't attempt to invade after they attacked Pearl Harbor. Sure some people are not bright enough to handle the kind of responsibility that gun ownership carries with it, but the vast majority are responsible enough.
122 posted on 11/04/2001 9:56:15 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Standing Wolf
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!
123 posted on 11/04/2001 10:01:11 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: truth_seeker
Any recommendations about the best hearing protection? I have had tinnitus in both ears for 32 years, so I would like to not make it worse.

I recently bought Peltor Tactical 6-S and couldn't be happier. Not only is the gunfire muffled, but other sounds can be amplified so you can hear what is going on around you. That is, "weak sounds" are amplified, sudden impact noises are muffled, which to me makes great sense if you ever found yourself in an actual combat situation. A little pricey (~$125) but well-worth it.

(Be sure to *try them out* first, it is possible they could increase the tinnitus ringing??)

124 posted on 11/04/2001 11:50:05 AM PST by calypgin
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To: truth_seeker
T_S, I'd try a good set of plugs along with a set of good muffs. You'll never get a Noise Reduction Rating (NRR) rating better than 34 (I'm pretty sure) because of bone conduction. I'd stay off of the rifle range, avoid indoor ranges (both are way too noisy) and go to a nice quiet outdoor pistol range. If somebody shows up to shoot next you with a magnum or hand rifle, then skedaddle. I have the same problem you do... I hope this helps. Stay safe, Beauregardless
125 posted on 11/04/2001 7:41:02 PM PST by beauregardless
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To: TaZ
The reason the US Military went to 9mm was to standardize with NATO protocol.

And that's the reason my firearms are (in ascending order by caliber) .223, 9mm, .50BMG and 12 gauge.

Sorting by cartridge length would result in a different order. :^)

If the fit hits the shan then ammunition for all of the above will be field-available.

When the military changes, then I will, too.

126 posted on 11/05/2001 4:30:28 AM PST by George Smiley
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To: truth_seeker
They've got some really neat electronic devices now that cancel our noise by creating a negative analogue to it.

Think they're down to around $200 now.

I'd strongly suggest that you check with your audiologist, too.

127 posted on 11/05/2001 4:32:45 AM PST by George Smiley
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To: Travis McGee
I guess people need some facts.

First, the .45 auto is one of the most accurate of sidearms.
Second, firearms kill by inflicting trauma on the target.
Third, the .357 magnum, the .45 ACO , the .40S&W, and the 9mm can all do the job as a defensive sidearm. I do not dicount the .38 spl in as useful nor the .380 acp. People can be dropped with a well place .22 cal short (but I do not like to bet on those probablities).
Fourth, there are many factors that can go into selection of pistol/caliber including concealability, weight, number of rounds, carry situation.
Fifth, shot placement beats caliber every time. A .50 cal AE in the floor is nowhere near as likely to stop an attack as a .22 short lodged in the medula oblongata after entering through the occular socket.
The reason they make so many different sidearms is that people have different hands arms muscle development and tolerance of recoil.

I know you already knew this I just had to state these facts once more.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

128 posted on 11/05/2001 5:56:05 AM PST by harpseal
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To: harpseal
The poster of this thread really stepped in the doodoo with his pronouncements at the top. It resulted in a fun "calber war" thread, but took away from the point of the article.
129 posted on 11/05/2001 7:54:23 AM PST by Travis McGee
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