[supercat]

You fell into my more to the point trap Supercat :o)...........

Perhaps you misunderstood me. Doctors and fire departments don't eliminate the need for private ownership of first-aid kits and fire extinguishers. The reason the latter are still needed is that in many cases a layman's response to a situation, executed immediately, is more necessary than a professional's response, executed later. If someone is in a major accident, a layman with a first-aid kit isn't going to eliminate the need for medical attention. If anything, the person with the first-aid kit will 'increase' it [by keeping the patient alive long enough for such attention to be worthwhile].

Police, likewise, do not eliminate the need for armed citizens, but armed citizens are not a substitute for police. Armed citizens, however, can help the police by staying alive so they can give the police the information they need to catch their would-be attackers.

[Squantos]

I understood ya 100% both posts. That was the response I sought from my first post. Just as the extinguisher and first aid kit have reason and effect so goes the firearm in the individuals possession. Were on the same sheet FRiend, you "reading" my posts ??......

Stay Safe !