[jjbrouwer]

Why should I and people like me be held to the same set of rules as those who make a mess of their life. Is that fair, just because some people go out of their way to screw up should I be subjected to the controls these people need.

Exactly! This is my main objection to some of the more radical born again Christians. Many of them apparently had a high old time destroying themselves before finding salvation. Yet they seek to prevent others indulging themselves too.

Do as I say, not as I do.

[tonycavanagh]

LOL Exactly how many times do you get some rock an roller or politician or anyone else on TV or in the papers telling you about the fun they used to get up to the sex the orgies the drugs and rock and roll.

At the same time I was drilling or on exercise or getting shot at.

And then they have the cheek to lecture us telling us its all bad, and not just there excesses, but are simple pleasures are now under threat.

I bet it was not because they found God it was because they got to old to hack it anymore and just like an old spoil sport want to stop everyone else having any fun.

Cheers Tony