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Angry judge orders hearing on Olson plea deal
cnn.com ^ | 01 Nov 2001 | Dree Declamecy

Posted on 11/02/2001 11:54:50 AM PST by maxwell

Edited on 04/29/2004 1:59:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- The judge in the trial of alleged former Symbionese Liberation Army member Sara Jane Olson on Thursday orde red a hearing for next week after the defendant spoke to the media about her plea deal Wednesday.


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This b!tch should've been thrown in mop handle heaven a long time ago.
1 posted on 11/02/2001 11:54:50 AM PST by maxwell
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To: maxwell
Soliah must pay!
2 posted on 11/02/2001 11:56:33 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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What's her basis for pleading innocence? "I have a new life now, leave me alone"?
3 posted on 11/02/2001 11:58:39 AM PST by maxwell
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To: maxwell
Olson attorney Shawn Chapman...

One of OJ's lawyers.

4 posted on 11/02/2001 12:13:06 PM PST by veronica
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Anyone in Minnesota can attest she is hostile and full of false pride. She is also insufferable. She thought she was Bill Clinton and waged the trial (before it occurred) on TV. If this woman goes free, there is no real justice.
5 posted on 11/02/2001 12:13:50 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: maxwell
Aside from the fact that we shouldn't be in favor of extra-judicial punishment, I find this fascinating:

In light of what she said after walking out of court, we can only assume she was lying to the judge, or lying to the press to save face.

Is spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons telling us that Olson should have made sure she was President of the United States before she decided to spin the press over the court decision? ;-)

6 posted on 11/02/2001 12:13:52 PM PST by an amused spectator
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Some people never learn to just keep their stinking mouths shut.
Sentence her.
7 posted on 11/02/2001 12:14:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: maxwell
She didn't plead innocent, she plead guilty.
8 posted on 11/02/2001 12:20:15 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Lancey Howard
She wanted the public stage. She's a publicity hound for whatever purposes. Thank goodness this judge appears about ready to return her to an environment where she'll likely recieve multiple decades behind bars. When people go after the police like she did, they'deserve what she's about to get.
9 posted on 11/02/2001 12:20:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: NeonKnight
Yeah. Whoops. Pre-conditioned expectation-oriented reading comprehension.
10 posted on 11/02/2001 12:22:54 PM PST by maxwell
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To: shrinkermd
the face of contrition?
11 posted on 11/02/2001 12:46:23 PM PST by Rustynailww
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To: maxwell
Good for the judge!
12 posted on 11/02/2001 12:46:43 PM PST by Amore
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To: maxwell
If a defendant feels ( for whatever reason) that she is innocent but wants to mitigate
punishment by avoiding a trial the procedure is to file an "Alford" plea.

That is an admission that there is enough evidence that if presented to the jury would lead to a conviction.
It takes its name from the Supreme Court case, North Carolina v Alford, 400 US 25 (1970).

13 posted on 11/02/2001 12:53:17 PM PST by APBaer
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I guess I have actually learned something by watching the TV show "Law and Order." They make a big deal, when the defendent pleads, of insuring that the person is pleading guilty because they are guilty and not just afraid of a conviction.

I get the impression from watching the show that the judge is ethically obligated to reject the guilty plea if he is not conviced that the person is really guilty.

If the person walks out of the court and says that they are innocent it seems incumbent on the judge to reject the plea.

I hope the judge drags her back into court and makes her either change her plea or give a detailed description of the crimes to which she is pleading guilty; make her either spell it out or go to trial.

14 posted on 11/02/2001 1:08:48 PM PST by tjg
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Symbionese Liberation Army member Sara Jane Olson

Who are the Symbionese and why did Sara Jane Olson care about them?

Another thing that always bothered me about the SLA is what did the US do to the Symbionnese to deserve terrorist attacks?

15 posted on 11/02/2001 1:16:10 PM PST by Pontiac
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"the judge is ethically obligated to reject the guilty plea if he is not conviced that the person is really guilty."
"give a detailed description of the crimes to which she is pleading guilty; make her either spell it out or go to trial."

You are right.
Though a judge cannot determine if someone is "guilty in fact", he must determine that the guilty plea is knowingly and voluntarily given and can ask a defendant who is pleading guilty to describe their crime. This process is called "allocution."
But sometimes the defendant does not want to admit guilt and that is when the "Alford plea" is used. The defendant does not say whether she is "in fact" guilty or inncoent but just that there is enough evidence for a jury to find her guilty were there to have been a trial, but in effect waives a trial.

16 posted on 11/02/2001 1:35:54 PM PST by APBaer
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Fine, let her enter an Alford plea -- then sentence that lying pile of manure to the max!

I was initially sypathetic to this woman. She seemed to have left her past behind and made partial amends by being a good mother and giving back to her community. But her behavior since her arrest convinced me that she's a self-righteous liar and hasn't changed at all. Throw the book at her.

17 posted on 11/02/2001 1:47:39 PM PST by colorado tanker
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"Alford plea"

Is this used very often? Why would anyone plead guilty if they could just use the Alford plea? It seems like the result is the same but it might leave your options open. Is there a catch?

18 posted on 11/02/2001 5:23:26 PM PST by tjg
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"Alford plea"

Is this used very often? Why would anyone plead guilty if they could just use the Alford plea? It seems like the result is the same but it might leave your options open. Is there a catch?

19 posted on 11/02/2001 5:25:47 PM PST by tjg
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To: Rustynailww
Does anyone have photo of Olson when she was in SLA?
20 posted on 11/02/2001 5:31:18 PM PST by not-an-ostrich
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