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Jihad declared on Australia
News Limited ^ | 02nov01 | RICK WALLACE, NATALIE SIKORA and IAN McPHEDRAN

Posted on 11/01/2001 10:17:26 AM PST by Eric Esot

AFGHANISTAN has declared holy war on Australia. The Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, Abdul Salam Zaeef, last night declared Australia a target for retaliation.

Until yesterday, only the US and Britain had been named as enemies of the Taliban, which harbours Osama bin Laden's terrorist network.

"Any person, any military coming to Afghanistan, for invasion, for fighting the people of Afghanistan, we are ready for a jihad," he said.

"Any people who join with the Americans - they are Americans to us."

Answering Australian journalists, he said jihad applied to anyone who joined America in the war on Afghanistan.

Asked if that included Australians in Australia, he replied: "Yes, yes, yes, this is clear."

Mullah Zaeef said the flow of asylum seekers to Australia would not stop until the attacks against Afghanistan ceased.

More than 1500 Australian troops have been committed to join the US and Britain in the war against terrorism.

Prime Minister John Howard last night said Australia was prepared to meet any threat.

He said increased security measures had been put in place after the September 11 terrorist attacks on America.

"We should not ignore this, but we should not overreact," Mr Howard said.

"My message to the Australian people is one of reassurance, but also one of saying we cannot just be brazenly indifferent to this sort of thing."

The Islamic Council of Victoria last night appealed to Australian Muslims to ignore the declaration of a holy war.

Council president Yasser Soliman called on all Muslims to work towards peace. "I would definitely direct all Muslims to ignore any calls for a holy war against Australia," he said. "Muslims should be working with all sectors of Australia for a holy peace.

"I think the Taliban themselves, speaking as Muslims, would have to admit that killing innocent people is also wrong."

But the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan said Australia was wrong for siding with America.

"If they are joining with Americans in coming to Afghanistan the jihad is clear, (it includes) any person who wants to accompany the forces of America," Mr Zaeef said.

Mr Howard condemned the Taliban for portraying the conflict in religious terms. "It is not an issue of religion, it is an issue of good against evil and fighting evil ought to be a common cause among the great religions of the world, of which Islam is clearly one," he said.

"It is the Taliban that is defining this issue in religious terms, it is not the US and it's not Australia."

The United States and Britain have mounted a non-stop bombing campaign in Afghanistan to weaken the Taliban before a ground assault by opposition forces under US guidance.

Special forces troops, including 150 from Australia's Special Air Service, will conduct surgical strikes deep inside Taliban territory.

The Government's Special Incident Task Force will meet to decide the government's response to the new threat.

That task force, led by the Attorney-General's Department, involves all government security agencies, including Defence, which has been on high alert since the September 11 attacks.

A government source said the jihad comments would certainly alter the security posture.

Australia is already on a high security alert and agencies are prepared for a terrorist attack.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globaljihad
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To: klee
I saw the "black Muslims" at Speakers Corner in London a few years ago - scary stuff. Seems that what they promised to do to the "whites" when they get the power is starting to happen.
101 posted on 11/01/2001 6:00:23 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: klee
Reports this week that the Indonesian police was forcing them onto the rickety boats to Australia at gunpoint.
102 posted on 11/01/2001 6:02:28 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: Kiwigal; shaggy eel
You know, Oz has been pretty effective at keeping the Afghans out so far. The Taleban might just have to make do with declaring jihad on Nauru instead...

It's coming to light that the majority of the "refugees" are not Afghani, but Pakistani and Iraqi. Almost all have rellies here, who tell them how easy it is to get money for nothing in Oz.

103 posted on 11/01/2001 6:04:35 PM PST by peabers
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To: KingKangaroo
,,, maybe you'd like to give us some input on post #103 from Peabers. For the record, I'm putting my money on what Peabers has to say.
104 posted on 11/01/2001 6:10:03 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: KingKangaroo
Most of the refugees coming here (which I would gladly accept) are actually fleeing the Taliban,...

Thats bulldust mate, where did you pick up that piece of misinformation. Some might be but why should they be allowed to jump the queue.

I think on this issue Johnny did the right thing and I don't believe he did it for political reasons. There has to be some limit otherwise it will be open slather and get totally out of control. Keep em offshore till they can be evaluated to make sure they are genuine refos and not just looking for a better lifestyle.

105 posted on 11/01/2001 6:10:54 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: Eric Esot
I wonder when they're going to find time to fight all these jihads...in between running for cover and fighting the NA, the Americans, the British, and probably the Russians, and soon to be the Turks, they're going to be mighty busy.
106 posted on 11/01/2001 6:18:03 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: shaggy eel
Stonleigh - yum. About $15(from memory) when you can get it.

Whatever the price I remember we all thought it was good value last year - we went though quite a few dozen on Xmas hols.

Any suggestions - I have to stock up the holiday house again.

107 posted on 11/01/2001 6:27:26 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: KingKangaroo
As what would appear to be the only real Aussie here, let me set you straight on a few things. Most of the refugees coming here (which I would gladly accept) are actually fleeing the Taliban, the brutal, vicious mdeiavel scum that they are. It is typical of conservatives and Christians (which our Tory Government is) to deny these poor, harrassed people sanctuary. Now, if the Afganis were good Catholics like the East Timorese, we'd have 7500 troops there in a flash. Luckily there is an election on Nov 10 and we can get rid of the racist failure that has been Conservative Government in Australia.

Sweet Jesus, don't tell me you're going to start hanging out here too.

108 posted on 11/01/2001 6:32:48 PM PST by peabers
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To: dead
If it will make you feel better, if we are ever in an argument, I'll declare jihad on you.

Oh, what the he!!, "A jihad upon you!!!"

How's that?

109 posted on 11/01/2001 6:34:35 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: MooCollins
That's where they're going.
110 posted on 11/01/2001 6:36:20 PM PST by c. l. coffman
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To: anapikoros
,,, Blenheim tends to produce the better Sav Blancs. The French maligned it for years. I bet you've tried "Cloudy Bay"? I like a large glass of that with marinated mussels. There's simply nothing better in summer. In winter I'd probably drink more reds.

In the lower North Island (Wairarapa District) we have a town called Martinborough. Virtually anything out of there is pretty good too.

111 posted on 11/01/2001 6:40:44 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Kiwigal
You know, Oz has been pretty effective at keeping the Afghans out so far.

True 'nuff. I think they ought to send Steve Irvin, who'll grab the ba$tards by the scruff of the necks, poke them with sticks, and enthusiastically describe their eating and mating habits to a camera crew.

112 posted on 11/01/2001 6:42:46 PM PST by Riley
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To: Eric Esot
This jihad crap is as bad as those Arab bitches and the high pitched yelps.

Ya, ya, Abdul, now shut the hell up.

113 posted on 11/01/2001 6:47:01 PM PST by irish_lad
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To: anapikoros
It is frightening. These people come to the West not because they want to assimilate, but to gain power. In fact, many muslim leaders have called for their people to get involved in politics, to get what they want.

Let me restate. I dont believe refugees and immigrants from such countries should be able to become citizens for a period of 10 years. That way we have time to sort out who it is we really have in our countries.

114 posted on 11/01/2001 8:25:55 PM PST by klee
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To: jjbrouwer
Oops think ya got it wrong there. It was Kanga who stated he was the only real Aussie on the board.
115 posted on 11/01/2001 8:28:36 PM PST by klee
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To: Eric Esot
AFGHANISTAN has declared holy war on Australia. The Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, Abdul Salam Zaeef, last night declared Australia a target for retaliation.

I'm so glad. Now I don't feel so alone. Now I know we are going to win. Note to self: Winning is everything.

116 posted on 11/01/2001 10:17:26 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: anapikoros
"Any people who join with the Americans - they are Americans to us."

Translation: You are either with us or with them.

Sorry to say, it's US against THEM. No bones about it.

117 posted on 11/01/2001 10:20:08 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: klee
As I have family in Australia, I dont really think you have any right to 'set me straight'.

I was referring to this remark.
118 posted on 11/01/2001 10:27:35 PM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
Peabers - who is married to an Aussie - posts here too of course.

Fair crack of the whip mate. I'm an naturalised Aussie married to a 5th generation Aussie and live in the Freo area. Ya can't get any more fair dinkum than that. But I did hang onto my US citizenship too.

The difference between KingKangaroo and me is that the Australian government had the option of kicking me out of the country.

119 posted on 11/01/2001 11:29:49 PM PST by peabers
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
I sure hope that Aussie men will find and de-ball these moslem rapists quickly, now that they have been set free.
120 posted on 11/01/2001 11:35:04 PM PST by Travis McGee
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