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First in you arrogance, you don't even take the time to READ my last post. If you had, you would have noticed that I stated that I got my information from medical TEXT BOOKS and websites.

Is this your site? It would help if these TEXT BOOKS and websites had names, authors or page numbers, then you could almost call it a site.

Also, I have looked over your posts on this thread, and NOT ONCE have you ACTUALLY posted any EVIDENCE to CONTRADICT the INFORMATION posted by me or OBAFGKM.

Hehehe…I see, you posit that the world is flat and I have to site why it is not. You have real integrity. But, that’s OK, I’ll play. Lets take my very first two condemnations.

Plastic surgery for hermaphodites at birth is the standard for hermaphodites.

Hermaphrodite, as you have generalized the term, means at least ten specific syndromes of abnormal sex differentiation. The standard for treatment varies depending on the disorder. “In cases of abnormal sex differentiation, efforts should be made to determine the reason for the abnormality as treatment may vary according to the cause of the disorder. There may also be a need for specific surgical repair and/or (hormonal therapy).Johns Hopkins Children’s Center

The standard is surgery to give them female genitalia.

Again, given the syndrome, the standard for treatment is different depending on the disorder.

Klinefelter Syndrome: “The most common form of treatment involves administering depotestosterone, a synthetic form of testosterone, by injection once a month.” Klinefelter Syndrome and Associates

Turner Syndrome:As a chromosomal condition, there is no "cure" for Turner syndrome. “Estrogen replacement therapy has been used since the condition was described in 1938 to promote development of secondary sexual characteristics. Estrogens are also important for maintaining good tissue and bone integrity.” Turner Syndrome Society

AIS: Treatment for Vaginal Hypoplasia. The results of pressure dilation are superior to those of actual plastic surgical construction of a vagina. AISSG

And on and on, the standard is not to treat with plastic surgery because surgery is syndrome specific.

Instead, you have decide to resort to name calling and blind accusations. Already you have accused me of having: A Transsexual Agenda A Homosexual Agenda A Liberal Agenda

I’m sorry, is that a denial? What about the argument you made on this thread? NOW Has Found A New Group To Exploit For Political Purposes: Hermaphrodites Remember when you proffered a Kruijver study to justify the link to “transexuality”? You are a liar!

Hi Clint,

I've been away for awhile, but it's nice to find that you've been educating yourself about hermaphroditism, sexual anomalies, etc. Keep at it and you'll eventually decide that some people really can't be said to be "born with one gender."

Paul Jesup exaggerated when he suggested that female assignment is standard procedure, but sadly, not by much. For much of the 20th century, the large majority of such surgical interventions have been along the lines of "constructing" a female. For one thing, it's generally a simpler procedure, but also, there has been a probably well intended tendency among physicians and psychologists to equate "maleness" with "adequate penis." That seems to be changing and -- I repeat myself -- it's about time.

Meanwhile, I wish you'd stop equating "anybody who says anything you don't like" to "liberal with an agenda." For one thing it ain't true, and for another it adds nothing to the thread.

Along that same line, you might do a self-search and then ask yourself whether somebody who's never posted anything other than a predictable rant on homosexuality might be suspected of "having an agenda."

Have a great day!

You do realize that by your own definition that over half the links you have posted part of the "Transsexual Agenda" you claim exists.

Also, did you even take the time to read the websites that you posted here. If you had, you would had maybe relaized that you have hurt yourself in this argument.

First, your Free Republic thread link is broken. Also, using FR as source information is counterproductive because FR is bias on this subject.

Second, the Johns Hopkins Children’s Center link is a FLAWED straight forward medical treatment link for those for those born with deformed genitals.

The reason why I say the information in the Johns Hopkins Children’s Center link is FLAWED is because there are no cases studies presented, nor any follow-up case studies for those who have undergone the treatments listed in the website. So none of us know have effective the treatments were.

This goes to the core of our disagreement. You flat out falsely accused me of having a "Transsexual Agenda" when I stated the some of the intersex people who had surgery on their deformed genitals when they were born, rejected the gender they were forced to be raised as.

Well the entire flawed theory that intersex people need genital surgery when they are born is based on the equally flawed work of John Money, who forced a maimed baby boy to live as a girl, and stole his childhood.

Here are two links to the entire sad tragic story.

http://www.endeavourforum.org.au/October2000-8.htm

http://aifs32.aifs.org.au/institute/afrc7/francis.html

As a lawyer would say; I rest my case.