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How Linux Saved Amazon
CNet.com ^ | October 30, 2001, 5:20 p.m. PT | Stephen Shankland, Margaret Kane, and Robert Lemos

Posted on 11/01/2001 4:09:34 AM PST by amigatec

Online retailer Amazon.com shaved millions of dollars from its technology costs last quarter by switching to the Linux operating system, a disclosure that could provide some guidance for other companies seeking to cut expenses in a stagnant economy.

In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the e-commerce giant said it was able to cut technology expenses by about 25 percent, from $71 million to $54 million.

The reduction was attributed primarily to Amazon's "migration to a Linux-based technology platform that utilizes a less-costly technology infrastructure, as well as general price reductions for data and telecommunication services due to market overcapacity," according to the filing.

In a related development, an Intel executive said Tuesday that the Napster file-swapping service and Linux inspired the company to overhaul some of its technology infrastructure.

Amazon's disclosure could provide hard data for Linux proponents who have long argued that the open-source software can save corporations money over the alternatives, such as Unix and Microsoft's various Windows products. A Microsoft representative, however, warned that short-term savings seen by Amazon could turn into a long-term increase in costs.

Linux, a 10-year-old clone of the Unix operating system and a competitor to Windows, burst onto the scene in the late 1990s and now is an established force in the computing industry even though many companies pushing it are faltering . A recent study found that Linux is more powerful than some versions of Unix, but Linux in businesses is used more often on lower-end servers than on the powerful machines at the heart of large companies. But because Linux is essentially a clone of Unix, it's a more natural candidate to replace Unix than the dissimilar Windows.

Linux, which is developed by numerous volunteer programmers and companies, has some major pricing advantages.

"We've recently...found that Linux--if you look at the overall cost of ownership including the hardware, software, staffing, and purchasing and retirement costs--ends up being significantly less expensive than Unix over a three-year period for things like Web serving," said IDC analyst Dan Kusnetzky.

Half the price tag
For 1,000 users tapping into a Linux server, the total cost is about a fifth to a half that of a Unix system, Kusnetzky said. The cost of administering a Linux system is about the same percentage of the overall cost for a Unix or Windows server, he added.

Cutting expenses is certainly important for Amazon right now. The company trimmed its losses by 30 percent in the third quarter, posting a net loss of $170 million. Amazon has pledged that it will be profitable on a pro forma basis by the fourth quarter, and with revenue inching up only $1 million from the year-ago quarter to $639 million, every little bit helps.

According to Internet research firm Netcraft , Amazon's Web pages are dished out by Linux servers running Red Hat's Stronghold Web server, a derivative of the open-source Apache project.

Amazon executives could not immediately be reached for comment.

Linux can cut costs in several ways. When a company first obtains the operating system, the software can be downloaded for free, or a single copy purchased from a company such as Red Hat or SuSE can be installed on as many computers as a company wants. Secondly, it comes bundled with other software for sending Web pages to people's browsers or running company e-mail.

Thirdly, in many cases companies don't have to pay extra licensing fees for the computers that connect to Linux servers. And finally, Linux is often used on inexpensive Intel computers, sometimes generic "white box" machines and sometimes older computers seeing a second life.

Linux has enjoyed strong penetration into the server market, accounting for 24 percent of server operating-system shipments in 1999 and 27 percent in 2000, Kusnetzky said. That's second to Windows, which went from 38 percent in 1999 to 42 percent in 2000.

But there are hidden costs to Linux, Microsoft argues. "I think a lot of customers are lured by the apparent low price of Linux," said Doug Miller, director of competitive strategy for Microsoft's Windows division. "They don't have a real issue with Linux, but it ends up costing them in the long run."

With Linux, customers "end up being in the operating systems business," managing software updates and security patches while making sure the multitude of software packages don't conflict with each other," Miller said. "That's the job of a software vendor like Microsoft."

While Red Hat offers some of those services, it's difficult to ensure that software packages updated frequently by hundreds of people around the globe work well together, Miller said.

Linux largesse
Amazon said in June that it was revamping its computer systems and switching to "commodity" computers running Linux. Executives said at the time that they expected technology costs as a portion of net sales would decrease by 20 percent this year.

While the company may have saved money going to Linux, there still was funding to go around. Two beneficiaries were Hewlett-Packard and Red Hat.

HP supplied Amazon's Linux servers, large numbers of thin, rack-mountable models with Intel chips, said Mike Balma, marketing director for HP's newly formed Linux Systems Operation. And Red Hat customized Linux for the servers.

HP has been working with Amazon since October 1999, Balma said, but the big contract win came in May 2000, when HP announced its systems would replace Unix servers from Sun Microsystems.

HP helped Amazon migrate its customized software from the earlier servers to the Linux servers that dish up Web pages as well as to higher-end HP Unix servers for the heavy-duty systems nearer the heart of the operation, Balma said. "They're basically an all-HP shop."

Red Hat spearheaded Amazon's switch over to Linux, said Billy Marshall, vice president of enterprise sales and marketing for the Durham, N.C., company.

"Amazon has been a customer of ours for over a year now," he said. "Each of the transactions that goes through their systems touch our technology. Now they are locked down for the holiday season. They are very happy with the output that they are getting."

With Linux systems cheaper than Unix systems, the current lean times offer a silver lining for the surviving Linux companies.

"I think things are very good for Linux--particularly in a down economy," Marshall said. "Companies are looking for alternatives to expensive proprietary systems that they were all too willing to shell out for in the go-go days."

On the desktop
Some companies are even putting Linux on the desktop to save money. Though Linux has a low penetration there--Linux accounted for only 1.5 percent of operating systems shipped for desktop use in 2000, compared with 92 percent for Windows, Kusnetzky said--some forces are aligning to increase its possibilities.

Among those forces: the coming version 6 of Sun Microsystems' StarOffice package of office software, which many believe will be a more capable product than the bulky current version and thus a more credible alternative to Microsoft's Office; burdensome Microsoft licensing fees during a time of economic austerity; and the overall price tag of Windows and Office.

"People are looking at Linux as a replacement for Windows," said Chad Robinson, an analyst at Robert Frances Group . "Not that people are switching en masse, but many corporations are exploring that area" chiefly for special-purpose desktops such as bank teller computers.

"The potential for cost savings there is huge," Robinson said.

In late September, independent consultant Rob Valliere published the results of a business study that convinced his small-business client to adopt Linux for a 24-person company. The bottom line: Switching the majority of computers to Linux would provide nearly the same functionality as an upgrade to Windows 2000 and save the company more than $10,000.

The study concluded that Linux applications could provide solid alternatives to nearly every Windows application, with the possible exception of the scheduling and e-mail integration of Microsoft Outlook.

In the study, Valliere found that licensing fees for 24 copies of Windows 2000 and Office 2000, along with a Windows 2000 server and necessary memory upgrades, would cost about $15,000. Installing Linux on the server and 20 of the computers--with the remaining four upgraded to Windows 2000--would cost slightly more than $5,000, including consulting and installation fees.

Cracking the whip
Another financial incentive to use Linux on the desktop is that Linux's open-source licensing makes it simpler for a company to make sure its computers are in compliance with license restrictions, as opposed to Microsoft's per-seat licensing plans that can result in costly and legally daunting audits.

"Staying in compliance with licenses is something a lot of companies are scared of right now. It's more difficult, and the ramifications of being out of compliance are becoming more and more onerous," Robinson said. "As of the last year or so, Microsoft has been going after companies where they've gotten tip-offs or had other suspicions."

With Windows XP and Office XP, Microsoft now has a better tool to enforce license compliance: product activation technology that locks versions of Windows and Office to a particular computer.

"We are a commercial software vendor. That's how we earn revenue," Miller responded. "Our goal is to be properly compensated by customers for our software."


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To: Leroy S. Mort
Yeah, now you have to buy 5 seats for your 300 seat company instead of one.

Check. Mate.
121 posted on 11/01/2001 6:12:01 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: amigatec
Of course folks the most Bulletproof operating system in the world is of course OS/400. Which by the way can run LINUX in its partitions.
The IBM Eserver Iseries running OS/400. In 90 percent of the Fortune 500 companies. Uptime of 99.99 percrent.
122 posted on 11/01/2001 6:17:01 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: ableChair
I know this isn't PC, but face it people; windows is for dumb folks, linux isn't.

Windows has 84% of the desktop market and Linux isn't even on the radar screen.

"God must have loved the common man, he made so many of them" - Abe Lincoln

123 posted on 11/01/2001 6:17:05 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: amigatec
And here I thought this would be an article on how Lucy's brother saved the rain forest. My mistake.
124 posted on 11/01/2001 6:26:07 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: ableChair
I know this isn't PC, but face it people; windows is for dumb folks, linux isn't. It's like everything else in this world; things are tailored and marketed for different markets. That's it.

Windows is to Linux as
AOL is to the Internet! right?

< looking for the back door .... >

125 posted on 11/01/2001 7:12:21 PM PST by AgThorn
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To: 11Bush
And here I thought this would be an article on how Lucy's brother saved the rain forest. My mistake.

Ha!! Heah, I can see how you could make that mistake! ;-)

126 posted on 11/01/2001 7:14:26 PM PST by AgThorn
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To: amigatec
Let me get this straight. The company is having trouble with money so they buy new equipment? And then claim they saved money.

This article does not pass the smell test. They saved money by getting rid of hardware and getting new telecom services. If they were running Windows, they wouldn't have had to buy anything. Just tighten the belt and make due. Same is true is they were running Linux before. Anyone with a yearly license is going to be hurt by Linux.

Also, how does a company like Amazon not make a freakin' fortune? They don't discount much and they don't have the costs of the bookstore in my local mall. They have name brand recognition and they're having trouble?

Yea, I want to follow them with my business decisions.
127 posted on 11/01/2001 7:41:46 PM PST by Joe_October
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Nobody used OS/2, not even IBM which developed it and never supported it. Linux is alive and well and giving MS a run for their money.

You keep pooh-pooing companies going over to Linux but you don't see any companies going from Linux to MS.

128 posted on 11/02/2001 4:07:06 AM PST by gore3000
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To: ableChair
Your lack of understanding that XP is not a server OS and then that idiotic statement about Windows being for dumb folks forces a response.

I've been in this industry for over 20 years from MVS to Unix to Windows. Such immature statements like the one you just made is amazing. THIS is why I don't ask zealots for their take on what systems to install.

If I have a customer who needs absolute uptime and security, OS/390 in a parallel sysplex is tough to beat. If I have a customer who needs massive data throughput and parallel tasking, Unix is tough to beat. If I have a customer who needs an easy to administer system, Windows 2000 Server is tough to beat. Get some experience before you indicate the lack of it with your statements.

129 posted on 11/02/2001 4:36:00 AM PST by wireplay
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To: gore3000
One example:

Published: May 2001 Switching from Linux and Apache to Microsoft® Windows® 2000 enabled Hard Rock Cafe to easily build a sophisticated and full-featured intranet, which the company is using to facilitate all areas of its business. In the year since the switch, the powerful tools provided with the Microsoft platform have enabled the company to develop a wide range of useful applications with just two developers, resulting in lower internal costs and improving the company's ability to communicate with employees across its 50+ corporate-owned cafes. Every Hard Rock Café employee using the intranet now enjoys a customized start page, providing easy access to the relevant tools and information needed to do their jobs.

130 posted on 11/02/2001 4:38:51 AM PST by wireplay
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To: gore3000
You keep pooh-pooing companies going over to Linux but you don't see any companies going from Linux to MS.

Scuse me, but the only thing I pooh-poohed was your assertion that the entire NYSE was switching to Linux. I just assumed you were as unknowledgable about that as you were about OS/2 and decided to set you straight on both.

Both Windows and Linux have cut into the Unix market, but Windows has cut quite a bit deeper. I showed that statistically quite a few posts back.

131 posted on 11/02/2001 12:32:43 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Windows may still have a bigger market share than Linux in the server market, but Linux is catching up - and the way people count this stuff is subject to debate. However, MS still keeps putting out crappy, insecure products. One of the "big things" in XP is supposed to be Passport which MS is pushing very hard. Well, XP has not been out a week and it has already been cracked. See the link below: Stealing Passoport's Wallet
132 posted on 11/02/2001 5:28:57 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
I think the latest projections I saw said Linux server "might" catch MS around 2005. Linux desktop hasn't got a chance of catching Windows based on its currently miniscule penetration.

When "200 million" users log in to a product like Passport (as your quoted article somewhat questionably claims) hackers and crackers are gonna target it. Fact is, no one needs to run Passport to run any MS operating system, even XP. It ain't a requirement.

133 posted on 11/02/2001 6:05:25 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Excuses, excuses. No noone needs to use passport. No one needs to use Outlook. No one needs to use Microsoft products. When a company pushes an insecure system on people where their credit card information is subject to theft, I call that very irresponsible. It is just one more example of Microsoft irresponsibility.
134 posted on 11/03/2001 9:53:52 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
It's obvious that logic and the facts have no impression on you, so this "debate" is at an end.
135 posted on 11/04/2001 4:42:14 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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