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INS holding 2 men seized at apartment (anthrax letters - HANDWRITING link?)
Trenton Times ^ | 11/01/01 | ALBERT RABOTEAU

Posted on 11/01/2001 3:58:13 AM PST by gumbo

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:36:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

HAMILTON -- Two men taken from the Greenwood Village Garden Apartments by FBI agents Monday are being held by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, an FBI spokeswoman said yesterday.

The men, who have not been charged by the FBI in connection with any terrorist investigation, were taken from the upstairs apartment at 228 Norman Court in handcuffs, a neighbor said.


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Follow-up to yesterday's article, FBI seizes property at Hamilton [NJ] apartment [anthrax/hijackers link]
1 posted on 11/01/2001 3:58:13 AM PST by gumbo
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To: aristeides; bvw
Our local newsstand worker, Mohammad Pervez, pops up again.
2 posted on 11/01/2001 4:02:40 AM PST by gumbo
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To: gumbo
Hmmm ... bookmark for later.
3 posted on 11/01/2001 4:02:41 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
IMPORTANT: One letter mailed to Senate had bogus "Greendale" School return address.

Greenwood appartments; Greendale School?

Subliminal link for someone with limited knowledge of English?

4 posted on 11/01/2001 4:14:03 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26
Greenwood appartments; Greendale School?

You may be on to something there.

5 posted on 11/01/2001 4:16:43 AM PST by gumbo
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To: gumbo
"They were there weeks ago asking questions about Mohammad Aslam Pervez, a former resident, said the Greenwood official. . "

Yes, this 'news' was posted a couple of weeks ago; with questions as to WHY they did not do a 'search' rather than just ask questions.

Maybe they just had to lay low, and wait for these 'folks' to return to their nest; whatever, this sounds like it could be 'good' news.

Of course, 'good news' to some; is 'bad news' to others ie . . .those that depended on the 'home grown' sourcing of Anthrax. . .'which of course, could still be. . .'

6 posted on 11/01/2001 4:22:29 AM PST by cricket
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To: MindBender26
"Greenwood appartments; Greendale School? "

. . .very good freepin cross-linking. . .!

7 posted on 11/01/2001 4:24:52 AM PST by cricket
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To: cricket
'bad news' to others ie . . .those that depended on the 'home grown' sourcing of Anthrax

Well, Mohammad Pervez IS a naturalized U.S. citizen.

If he is (one of) the culprits, would the media could still call it "domestic terrorism"?

8 posted on 11/01/2001 4:26:26 AM PST by gumbo
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To: gumbo
Good question, I just hope there us a link.
9 posted on 11/01/2001 4:31:27 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: gumbo
Those redneck rightwingers from Trenton sure are busy beavers.
10 posted on 11/01/2001 4:32:11 AM PST by cynicom
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For anyone unfamiliar with the area,

Hamilton, NJ is right next door to Trenton.

The Daschle and Brokaw anthrax letters went through the Hamilton post office center.

Mohammad Pervez lived in Hamilton, and also shared a Jersey City apartment with the 2 dudes where were caught in Texas with boxcutters, hair dye, and lots of cash, after their September 11 flight was grounded in St. Louis.

Wall Street Journal reporters found magazine articles related to bio-warfare in the Jersey City apartment (after which, the FBI decided to search it more thoroughly).

11 posted on 11/01/2001 4:33:05 AM PST by gumbo
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Forgot to add, the anthrax laced letter to the New York Post also went through the Hamilton post office center.

The building remains shut down for decontamination.

12 posted on 11/01/2001 4:43:44 AM PST by gumbo
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To: gumbo
They need to check appartment with a "Boink" right away. Boink is slang name of machine that detects Bio, spores, etc.
13 posted on 11/01/2001 4:44:03 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: gumbo; *TerrOrWar; *Anthrax_Scare_List
Indexing.
14 posted on 11/01/2001 4:45:31 AM PST by aristeides
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To: MindBender26
Greenwood appartments; Greendale School?

The bogus name had to come from somewhere. Good thought.

15 posted on 11/01/2001 4:47:53 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: gumbo
If he is (one of) the culprits, would the media could still call it "domestic terrorism"?

You're probably right.

Even though some of the British Moslems stated yesterday that they are Moslems that happen to be living in Britian and don't really consider themselves British.

I'm not sure how they are going to identify them as right wing domestic terrorists, but the media will probably find a way.

16 posted on 11/01/2001 4:50:33 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: gumbo
Most interesting, but why wouldn't these nice peaceful Muslims have driven 45 minutes and mailed them from Philadelphia?
17 posted on 11/01/2001 4:52:23 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: gumbo
Didn't Pervez also work at a newsstand? Where was this newsstand located? I keep wondering about how the NY woman managed to contract the inhaled kind of anthrax. Did he slip a some of it into pages in a magazine at a NY newsstand, for instance? Many women's magazines contain some of those little perfume-infused cards, and it's not uncommon to put your nose to the things and sniff them. (Although personally, they make me sneeze so badly I tend to avoid those magazines that have them.)
18 posted on 11/01/2001 4:52:58 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: gumbo
Well, Mohammad Pervez IS a naturalized U.S. citizen.
Evidently obtained fraudulently and hence invalid.

If he is (one of) the culprits, would the media could still call it "domestic terrorism"?
Of course. Nobody ever accused the media of more than room temperature intelligence.

19 posted on 11/01/2001 4:54:15 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Aquinasfan
ALSO - Hamilton Square, about 4 miles from Mohammad Pervez's Greenwood village apartment is the home of the first non-postal worker/non-media member victim of anthrax:

Anthrax victim perplexed, but she's unafraid

11/01/01

By KEVIN SHEA
Staff Writer

HAMILTON -- She is strong and has no fear of the anthrax germ that gave her a nasty sore on her forehead.

"I'm not afraid. I'm on treatment, it's OK," the Hamilton Township accountant said yesterday. "The skin anthrax is not something to be afraid of, just go to your doctor (if you develop a sore)," she said.

But the mother of two and now a grandmother is also demandingly private and hopes to quickly resume her "normal life" in Hamilton Square, where she lives, and her job at a local firm, where she has worked for 13 years.

"I just want to go back to my life. I want to be normal and I just want to go about my business. That's all."

The 51-year-old woman who has skin anthrax broke her silence yesterday, but the interviews she gave were with the condition that her name not be used.

She is the only anthrax patient in New Jersey who is not a postal worker and, she says, that baffles her as much as it does the bevy of public health and law enforcement investigators on the case.

"I'm just a simple person. I don't go anywhere. I don't do anything out of the ordinary. I don't have a clue," she said.

It started small, she said, something on her forehead she noticed in the mirror on Wednesday, Oct. 17.

"Under my bang. I saw it. I said, `Well, that's not right.' "

She thought the stresses of her daughter's wedding, which was that upcoming Saturday, was the culprit.

But then she noticed her lymph nodes were swollen, so she went to her doctor that day and was put on Cipro. Two days later, on Friday night, the sore "seeped," and she attended her daughter's wedding with a bandage on her head.

The next day, Sunday, she went to the hospital.

For the next week, she went through a series of tests, and even had her friends look up spider bites on the Internet after a doctor suggested an arachnid had bitten her.

It could have happened, she said, because she'd been doing a lot of cleaning around the house in anticipation of wedding guests.

When she saw a picture of what a black recluse spider bite looked like, her reaction was: "That looks very much like the wound on my head."

"But now they say, `No, I didn't have a spider bite, I have anthrax,' " she said yesterday, incredulously.

She learned officially on Monday that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed a biopsy of her lesion was anthrax. She accepts the finding, as bizarre as it is.

"I'm still, sometimes, in denial because I had three tests taken on it prior to the biopsy and those three tests came back (inconclusive). It's hard to believe."

Now that she's been living with skin anthrax, she wants the public to know it's not a horrible infliction, provided it is treated.

"If you see a lesion or anything odd on your skin, just go to your doctor immediately and have it checked out," she said. "I don't think it's anything to be alarmed about. I know some people are afraid, but it's not contagious. Just be cool."

It's not terribly painful either, she said; it was more of an annoyance. "I was fortunate," she said. "I just had some discomfort, but you know, I was not ill."

The toughest part was being in the hospital. "I didn't want to be there!" she said.

The woman is wondering herself how she came in contact with anthrax spores.

Asked if she has any theories, she said, "Not at all."

She said when the FBI tested her house Tuesday she was asked where she opened her mail at home and where all the phones in the house were. She said yesterday the results of the tests on her house will be back at the end of this week.

"I am calm," she said. "I am not worried about it at all. (The sore) is getting small, it's healing. The stitches are out, I feel fine."

She expects to be back to work at Civale, Silvestri, Alfieri, Martin and Higgins on Kuser Road next week.

Her friends and loved-ones have been wonderful in the past two weeks, she said. "I just thank them for the support. My friends have all called and people I haven't heard from in years."

(Also from the Trenton Times.)

Wonder why the FBI wanted to know "where all the phones in the house were."

20 posted on 11/01/2001 4:56:01 AM PST by gumbo
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