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Libertarians: Repeal all gun laws
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, November 1, 2001 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 10/31/2001 10:11:16 PM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: tortoise
I've found is a gradient based on cognitive ability.

Help me understand this...you're not saying someone with Alzheimers Disease is less of a person than you or I, are you? After all, their cognitive ability is far inferior to ours.

221 posted on 11/02/2001 11:50:54 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Ubonic
Those terms you listed are easy to throw around, but I'd be interested in hearing you explain what exactly each of the 10 entail, and how you'd go about accomplishing them. What's more, how would you go about accomplishing each without contradicting one of the others?
222 posted on 11/02/2001 11:59:05 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
Help me understand this...you're not saying someone with Alzheimers Disease is less of a person than you or I, are you? After all, their cognitive ability is far inferior to ours.

Exactly. While this may not sit well in Happy Land, this has always been true. Our society and our legal system (and for that matter essentially all such systems in the world) hold the cognitively impaired to be less of a person than someone who is not. Most legal systems have almost always granted "lesser person" status to all sorts of humans with a wide-range of problems. A person with severe Alzheimers is not generally recognized to be as much of a "person" as you may be by legal or social convention. Same with the mentally retarded. It isn't nice, but neither is the world.

We are all animals, but it is our minds that make us "people". In a similar vein, I consider my life to have infinite value, but I am honest enough to know that my own and every other life has a very finite value in reality. These are brutal truths, and not likely to sit well with idealists. Nonetheless, I would rather see the world like it is in all its ugliness than to pretend reality is something that it is not.

223 posted on 11/02/2001 12:11:18 PM PST by tortoise
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To: tortoise
Our society and our legal system (and for that matter essentially all such systems in the world) hold the cognitively impaired to be less of a person than someone who is not.

Try murdering someone with Alzheimers and claim you can't be prosecuted because they're "not a person". While their capacity is diminished, their right to life is the same as yours or mine. How is a fetus any different?

224 posted on 11/02/2001 12:19:10 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: biblewonk
Actually the Thomas Jefferson solution of a national charitable initiative for education was a good idea. I would prefer smaller scale state or private charitable education funds with purely voluntary contributions. That way those that cannot pay for education would have a way to get the education they desire.

$10,000 a year is a very expensive education. A bit of private sector competition could reduce the cost of education and increase results. You really have to wonder when I can take a child out of school, homeschool them for just three hours a day and have them gain two years of academic achievement over their friends of the same age in public schools in just nine months. This with no more than $200 in education materials.

Education should be compulsory not because government says you must go to school. Education should be personally compulsory because you desire to eat food and live with a roof overhead. Education would have more status and value because it would have to be purchased like a pair of athletic shoes. A competitive vertical market would make our youth the very best educated in the world.

225 posted on 11/02/2001 12:21:49 PM PST by scottiewottie
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To: riley1992
# 208

knock it off with the flames.

ROTFL. Stop making sense, they mean.LOL

I don't see where you flamed anybody. So much for my career as a censor.

226 posted on 11/02/2001 11:29:41 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
So much for my career as a censor.

Well, there's always McDonald's. LOL

227 posted on 11/03/2001 1:27:09 AM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
Mornin'

Well, there's always McDonald's.LOL

Hey lady, you wanna super-size this order? LOL

228 posted on 11/03/2001 1:53:27 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
"Excuse me, did you wash your hands before touching my Big Mac?"
229 posted on 11/03/2001 1:55:38 AM PST by riley1992
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