B52 carpet bombing 'can oust Taliban'

The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 11/01/2001 | Alan Philps and Michael Smith

[RightWhale]

Only a massive invasion of Afghanastan will do the trick,

It would be strategically unsound to attempt a massive sweep through the country until the rearground is secure. The rearground is other countries bordering Afghan that are either not friendly at the moment, or that are assisting to some limited degree.

The stated objective is to get the terrorist groups of global reach. If Afghan is harboring these groups, then military means are being used to change the situation so that the groups can be rooted out and destroyed. Afghanistan itself is of next to no interest to America, or probably to anyone else. The same goes for Islam. If we stay focused on the objective -- eliminating the terrorist groups of global reach wherever they are -- this can be accomplished and Afghan and whoever else is harboring the groups will be of no further interest to America.

If air bombing will aid in reaching this goal, then by all means continue. If some targets would respond to ground attack, then do that when feasible.

[BRO68]

The B52-Ds with the "big belly" mod flown in Vietnam would carry 108 500lb GP bombs each and fly in cells of 3 aircraft.

An Arc Light strike, from even miles away was terrifying. The newer B52 models, without the mods, carried 27 500lb bombs, I believe.

[gonzo]

Russ, if you want to post a pic here that you have on your computer, you first have to put it on a website like Photopoint, or your own website, then link to it with HTML.

This pic:

is on my gifs&pics page, at: http://sites.netscape.net/gonzo5440/homepage2.

I called up the page, right-clicked on the image, and left-clicked on 'Save Image Location'. The location is now stored in my right-hand (cache, really)

Then ya go to where ya wanna post the pic, do the < IMG SRC=", left-click, and right-click 'Paste', close with "> , and when ya hit 'Post', yer pic will appear.

The pic has to be somewhere on the web to post it here. If you see a pic, you can do the same thing, like this:

and here's the location of that pic: 'http://saturn.he.net/~danger/b52.jpg'.

You can make a free website in several places. Have fun, and Freepmail for help. We can learn anyone here, bud. I learned all my HTML right here - Thanks again, Michael....FRegards

[Incorrigible]

Welcome Eyes Now Opened,

Don't even try to leave. It will make you feel even more guilty when you come back!

Glad to have you here and look forward to your contributions.

[Incorrigible]

Could you also tell how to get a picture into url format? I know there is a site it can be posted to and then linked to, but I can't remember what the site is. Thanks!

You can check out Photopoint.com.  They will host pictures (jpg, gif, bmp files) that you upload to their servers.  You'll need to set up at least a $20/year account with them if you want to link those images to FreeRepublic.  There are lots of other "free" web hosting sites but they often block the images from being linked to another domain. Even Photopoint is iffy due to it's unprofitable business model.

If you have print photos and need to get them in electronic format, scanners are fairly cheap and will give you plenty of resolution for web based imaging.  You can also go to a neighborhood print shop and they can probably help too.

[hoot2]

"Get me Premier Kissoff on the Red Phone !"

Damn Commies... Audio

[BansheeBill]

Carpets installed, while you wait.

[WIMom]

You need a web site to post pictures to. I don't have one and don't know more than that. Anyone?

[PJ-Comix]

It's an elegant design, like the 1911 handgun - everything you need, nothing you don't need!

Most of the bombers were in use for only about 7 years or less---B-17, B-29, B-36, B-49, etc. but the B-52 has been in use since 1954. BTW, there was once a movie starring Jimmy Stewart about another jet bomber. Was that the B-49? Whichever it was, I don't think it was in use for more than about 4 years when the B-52 made it obsolete.

[snorkeler]

That question was asked at a news conference yesterday.

The response was....Imagine that (sic level of bombing), 24hrs a day.

[Capt.YankeeMike]

wow, thats incredible. thanks

[oust the louse]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Every time I turn around, the bombing is the "most intense since the bombing began". It makes you wonder how much more intense it can get.

We haven't even scratched the surface of what we can do.We are picking and choosing the spots to drop.We could probably intensify this to unbelievable proportions but what would that prove? Why p^ss away bombs just for show...

[mad_as_he$$]

yup BUFFS carry 108 -500 pounders. In Nam during Linebacker we put 100 per day up to go after ONE target. This "war" is live fire exercise for our guys. Too bad we aren't really laying it on the bastards.

[BRO68]

The movie was Strategic Air Command , a propaganda piece for the Air Force. ("Propaganda" not meant in a "bad" sense.)

The two aircraft shown in the movie were the B-36 Peacemaker and the B-47 Stratojet. I had the chance when I was a kid during the 50s to actually see a B-36 up close at an Armed Forces Day open house. Six pusher piston engines and 4 jet engines and just a HUGE aircraft. I believe they nicknamed it "The Aluminum Overcast."

[185JHP]

I think that one was the B-47 - which was designed by the Brits - they called it the Canberra. The good news is, we didn't have to use a bomber for serious social purposes until after we got the B-52. FReegards

[PJ-Comix]

The two aircraft shown in the movie were the B-36 Peacemaker and the B-47 Stratojet.

Yeah, the B-47 is the one I remember now. Apparenly that bomber wasn't used for long. Wasn't there also a Delta wing Bomber, The B-70 in development in the 1960s but that project had to be cancelled when that bomber crashed in its first test flight?

[Blueflag]

But do you remember the SOUND a B-36 made? As a young child I heard one fly at an air show at Byrd field in Richmond. (at least I remember my dad taking us there, it may have been somewhere else near Richmond, circa 1958 - 59)

[Blueflag]

I believe you are thinking of the B-58 Hustler. Cool looking, apparently bad flying ...

[Blueflag]

But the B-70 was a delta wing with a front canard. If I remember, the B-70 crashed when a chase plane hit it. That was an excuse to cancel it, as strategy was shifting from supersonic high altitude bombing of the Soviet Union to low level penetration. BUFF survived. B-70 (which had a cool name too, like archangel or similar) did not.

[Blueflag]

Hit post too fast. The B-70 was the Valkyrie.

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/history/bna/xb70.htm