[winstonchurchill]

flame-retardant jumpsuit I treat the five points of Calvinism as an attempt to outline, as much as is possible, the mechanism behind salvation.

No jumpsuit needed. But neither do I need a trusty "outline" or an understanding of the "mechanism". If it were needful, Christ would have told us.

I don't need Calvin's "mechanism" or his "outline" any more than I need the 'perpetual virginity of Mary' or Mary as a "co-redemptrix" with Christ. I suspect few Calvinists would have any difficulty seeing the danger of that little 'addition' to the Gospel.

Why is it that they cannot see that saying "there are no non-Calvinists in Heaven" displaces the Gospel of Christ with the 'gospel of Calvin'?

I NEED Jesus Christ. That's all.

[rwfromkansas]

When you exalt yourself in the process of salvation, that is a problem. However, again...I agree with you....and as a Calvinist, that nobody can say only Calvinists are in heaven. The thing is, most Arminians don't intend to exalt themselves or anything. It is just that they do not understand the workings of salvation and assume, based on their experience (which biases their readig of Scripture), that they chose God. This goes agaist the NT where it says "you did not choose me, but I CHOSE YOU." Ignorance does not damn. There are a few ARminians though which flagrantly attack this new knowledge and refuse to accept it. They openly attack the truth of God. That is sin and I can't say for sure if these people are saved.

[Romestamo]

My point is that Calvinism is not vicious. My point is not that a believer needs a trusty outline, only that Calvinism is such an outline, and, needed or not, it is consistent with the Scriptures.

Finally, guessing what a Calvinist would or would not like to see added to the Gospel is not helpful. I don't want to tamper with the Gospel. Those I know don't want to tamper with the Gospel. All true Christians don't want to tamper with the Gospel. So please, limit your beliefs about what Calvinists want and don't want to what they profess they want and don't want.

[AnalogReigns]

I clearly said of course non-Calvinists can be saved. Ignorance won't keep you from Christ.

However, once there, we will know the truth about all kinds of things we were misled about before--and I firmly believe that what scripture teaches is basically what Calvin taught.

To say there are no non-Calvinists in heaven is just saying I believe it is true.

You of course would say there are no Calvinists in heaven, would you not???