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To: AnalogReigns
... evangelical Calvinist fellowships ...

Now there's an oxymoron. "Evangelical" means 'carrying the good news to those in need.' as in "evangelism". Where's the "good news" in "so sorry, I'm telling you this story, but you're not included. [It's only us.] Have a happy eternity in Hell."

Of course we think there are no non-Calvinists in heaven.

I think this statement even tops the one (by one of your co-religionists on a FR thread a month or two ago) that "Christ was a Calvinist."

I suppose it would be too much to ask you to find that verse in the Bible. [You know, "Thus saith the Lord, 'There are no non-Calvinists in Heaven.'") Nah, forget it. A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.

101 posted on 10/31/2001 4:06:03 PM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: winstonchurchill
I believe there are Free-willers in heaven since most just misunderstand the Bible, but still believe Jesus is the Savior etc. Anyway, in heaven though, I am sure they are corrected.

Calvinists are very evangelical because the way God saves his elect is through the spreading of the Gospel. If you do not spread the truth, nobody can be saved.

105 posted on 10/31/2001 4:13:05 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: winstonchurchill
Now there's an oxymoron. "Evangelical" means 'carrying the good news to those in need.' as in "evangelism". Where's the "good news" in "so sorry, I'm telling you this story, but you're not included. [It's only us.] Have a happy eternity in Hell."

I don't know where you get off with your insults. I'm not insulting those who are not Calvinist. The original Reformers, Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Melanchthon, Cranmer, etc. were all, without exception, in agreement of what the Scriptures clearly teach about predestination. The word "Evangelical" itself was first used by followers of Luther--a committed predestinarian.

The first Protestant missionaries--going out when they were at clear risk of being literally burned--were all followers of John Calvin. Sharing the good news of Jesus has always been top priority for Calvinists.

As a proportion of their denominations, there are probably more evangelical Presbyterian (Calvinist) missionaries today than any other denomination. Wycliff Bible Translators, the largest independent missionary organization in the world, is filled with evangelical Calvinists.

Yes, I believe the tenets of Calvinism to be true, and found clearly in the Bible--but I'm not insisting that you believe them to be saved, nor am I deriding your denomination, whatever it may be--as you have derided mine.

Your insults don't reflect the love of Christ which you claim to defend by putting down those who honestly understand the Bible differently than you.

201 posted on 10/31/2001 7:35:34 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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