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The "Lindows" conundrum (New Linux *and* Windows compatible OS?)
ZDNet via Yahoo ^ | Monday October 29 08:13 AM EST | John C. Dvorak

Posted on 10/29/2001 8:49:46 AM PST by Dominic Harr

Monday October 29 08:13 AM EST The "Lindows" conundrum

The "Lindows" conundrum

By John C. Dvorak, PC Magazine

Why isn't anyone taking Lindows--a cheap OS that runs both Linux (news - web sites) and Windows code but looks like Windows--seriously? John Dvorak says because it could beget the massive transition that Microsoft perpetually fears.

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COMMENTARY-- Look at the recent release of Mac OS X (news - web sites) 10.1, at last week's Windows XP (news - web sites) extravaganza, at the recent upgrade for the Pocket PC OS, and at the out-of-the-blue announcement of the vaporware called Lindows, and you'd begin to think things are getting pretty exciting in the computing business. At least that's what you'd think if you were an anthropologist from Mars. Things are heating up more out of desperation than anything else. But there is hope for at least some excitement, thanks to Lindows.

Lindows, (www.lindows.com) has a name that in itself is genius. It's software that combines Linux and Windows without violating any trademark or copyright--although I bet Microsoft will sue at some point. The concept is to make a cheap OS that runs both Linux and Windows code, but that looks and runs like Windows. The Lindows concept was dreamed up by MP3.com entrepreneur Michael Robertson, and is encountering skepticism. Nobody is taking it too seriously except me. I think Lindows might fly if it can conquer one simple roadblock, and that's running Microsoft Office 97, 2000, and XP. If Lindows can run these versions of Office, then look out below. Bombs away.

One reason I have high hopes for the Lindows OS is that there is a 20-person team working on it, not a 20,000-person team. Starting with the base Linux OS gave the Lindows team a nice head start, after which all the team had to do was translate Windows app-to-OS hooks. The open-source WINE project helped out there. But the Lindows team still must make its OS run the key versions of Microsoft Office. Once the Lindows team starts talking about running StarOffice applications, then you'll know the developers have failed.

Now, assuming that the team gets Lindows to work, Michael Robertson is a proven CEO who can promote it. This will be needed, since the industry as a whole will not want to see such a product succeed in the short run. The industry is currently geared up for continued growth through never-ending hardware performance increases. Nobody wants to see a compatible OS appear on the scene that would make a 90-Mhz Pentium run rings around a gigahertz machine, which is a distinct possibility. This development would do nothing positive for computer sales or the industry. On the other hand, it could allow a new category of computer to appear: the $299 el cheapo machine. I have no difficulty imagining such a machine powered by a cheap, low-end Duron with 64 to 128 megs of memory and a 10-Gig hard disk. This would reinvigorate computing, since it would change all the cost-of-ownership numbers radically.

Microsoft will publicly laugh off this attempt to encroach on its business, but you can be certain the company is going to keep an eye on the Lindows folks. Microsoft's risky strategy concerning pricing of Windows XP, and its onerous antitheft policing mechanisms, may become problems. Those problems could be the opening Lindows needs to make inroads into the significant and influential home computing market. The new Microsoft policies are aimed at the families in America and elsewhere who have multiple machines and routinely upgrade one of them, then steal upgrades for the rest of the family. This can no longer be done. A family of four today often has four machines, or maybe five if you include the laptops. On the Lindows Web site, the company is making a point of telling people that it will not implement the Microsoft policy regarding universal home upgrades.

The irony of the new Microsoft policies is that they will probably not affect or improve sales one iota. In many environments, people have given up on the universal home upgrade, and they leave the various OSs in place. I, for example, have various machines in my house running many different operating systems. If a machine craps out, I would like to get an OS installed on it immediately. So, like everyone else in the world, I would like to just grab whatever OS disk I can find and get the machine back up and running. With XP that may be impossible, so Microsoft's policy is an annoyance. This is the kind of annoyance that Lindows can exploit. With all the complaining that people do about Microsoft, the company's new policies are not wise.

Thinking about the competitive costs of operating systems is interesting. I've been fascinated by the Palm OS versus Pocket PC OS battle, which resembles in every way the battle between Apple and Microsoft over the years. Since the invention of the Mac, Apple has had the easy-to-use computer and interface, but has suffered market share loss to Windows. The parallels between this battle and the Palm/Pocket PC battle are obvious with one exception: market share. The Palm OS has commanding market share. People like to attribute this to the fact that the Palm was out first, and had a head start. But as far as today's computers are concerned, the Macintosh had a head start too. The real key to understanding market dominance boils down to price and performance, period. If today's Mac were seriously cheaper than a PC in every way, Apple would dominate the way Palm does. Palm devices are just dirt cheap compared to Pocket PC devices.

I sense that Microsoft has lost sight of the simple fact that price/performance is everything, and prefers to believe its own publicity about innovation. I don't even need to go into the mess it's creating with all these nickel-and-dime schemes involving Passport, and the sneaky advertising Microsoft intends to implement with XP. That's all beside the point.

Lindows may not succeed, but it's at least possible. Even if Lindows comes close to success, the product could beget the massive transition that Microsoft perpetually fears.

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To: Uncle Fud
Does it work everywhere? For example, using opera, the "breaking news" column is not completely on the screen. Do you see that sort of problem often?
41 posted on 10/29/2001 11:00:16 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: AMERIKA
Bill Gates promised us this back between windows 95 and windows 98.

Gates offered cross-platform computing? Are you sure? I've never heard of that . . .

Java is here, now. There was a survey out last month that showed that the majority of new software development is in Java now. It's the dominant force in software already, and has almost completely taken over corporate internal IT development. This is 'cutting edge' stuff that you won't see much of in the consumer world for a year or three. There are a few examples on the web, but they're rare.

Altho the 'Microsoft' crowd is fighting it, and Microsoft is doing the best they can to co-opt Java. Ask one of them about Java and they'll tell you so many lies it's funny -- calling it 'slow', and 'useless'. And Microsoft is making 'C#', a 'Windows-only' copy of Java.

We'll just have to see how this plays out.

42 posted on 10/29/2001 11:12:05 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
There is a 'quiet' revolution going on in software. Java has become the language of choice for new software development.

I hope you're right, but I have my doubts. I have been beating my brains out learning Java for a couple of years. The problem I am finding is that Java programs are just plain slow. JavaServer Pages are okay because the Java objects persists after first use, but Java programs just aren't as snappy as native code.

As I said, I hope you are right, but I don't think it is a certainty.

Maybe if somebody comes up with a Java compiler that will compile Java to native platform code?

43 posted on 10/29/2001 11:58:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Rodney King
I use Opera sometimes. The downside is that not all of the plugins work. Yet!
44 posted on 10/29/2001 12:02:58 PM PST by rainingred
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Maybe if somebody comes up with a Java compiler that will compile Java to native platform code?

Bingo.

For the last 2 years, since Java 2 was released, the JVMs are 'JIT' (Just-in-time) compilers that compile the Java to native code. It runs just as fast as C++ for most functions.

I write Java code all day every day. The 'Java is slow' concept is years old. Like saying the Internet is slow . . .

45 posted on 10/29/2001 12:45:13 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
Microsoft's risky strategy concerning pricing of Windows XP, and its onerous antitheft policing mechanisms, may become problems.

In spite of what the MS flying monkeys might say, it is already a problem.
I have yet to hear, at the user level, a single good thing about XP from anyone other than a button-pusher user. You know, the contingent who wouldn't know what to do if the plug fell out of the wall.

The feeling is intense and hostile. Most simply are waiting for someone to hack the damm anti-theft nanny and civilize it back to the pre-XP version.
That or just using the 97 version until another OS matures.

46 posted on 10/29/2001 1:09:30 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: SolitaryMan
Not surprised that I have already seen "Cracks" to get around the Windows Authorization.

Care to share?

47 posted on 10/29/2001 1:14:34 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
I have yet to hear, at the user level, a single good thing about XP from anyone other than a button-pusher user.

Yeah, something like half of the 'upgrade' installs I'm aware of have crashed the machine, and the 'tech support' wait is hours.

I'd say XP has not exactly taking the world by storm . . .

48 posted on 10/29/2001 1:37:43 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
I write Java code all day every day. The 'Java is slow' concept is years old. Like saying the Internet is slow . . .

I am happy to be corrected. Thanks.

49 posted on 10/29/2001 1:50:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Dominic Harr
For the last 2 years, since Java 2 was released, the JVMs are 'JIT' (Just-in-time) compilers that compile the Java to native code.

I have been using JDK 1.3.1. Is that a JIT compiler?

50 posted on 10/29/2001 1:51:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I have been using JDK 1.3.1. Is that a JIT compiler?

The 'HotSpot' JIT compiler does come bundled with 1.3, I think. Altho I think it may not be the 'default' JVM -- but don't quote me on that.

51 posted on 10/29/2001 1:58:30 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Rodney King
No, the opera email stinks, I stay with outlook (or Pegasus email, its pretty good and another small program)
52 posted on 10/29/2001 7:03:14 PM PST by egarvue
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To: Dominic Harr
Bump to list (tech_index).

Thank you.

53 posted on 10/29/2001 7:23:40 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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