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To: tonycavanagh
Was it gods will I was blown up in North Ireland, or did he stop protecting me, or was it because I moved to close to the booby trap. This is the same blame the victim, and why us stuff that other people have put forward mainly by those who know nothing of the real world and what is really happening outside there shores.

OK, here's some hard Truth. God does allow evil to exist. That means that He allows men to be evil and do evil things to good people.

That, quite obviously, has nothing to do with 'blaming the victim.' But, you are engaging in the typical liberal nonsense of 'blaming God' because we live in a sinful world of our (mankind's) own making.

Actually, He went way beyond what we 'deserve' and made His Son Who knew no sin to be sinful for our sake.

And, by the way, sin knows no "shore". In case you haven't noticed, evil happens everyday on every shore. Yes, something as great as the 'unnoticed' (to you) Mohammedan evil (which has been 'known' to Christians for 1300 years plus or minus) does bring itself forcefully to our attention every once in a while. But it is certainly NOT the source of evil; it is merely a symptom of it.

152 posted on 10/29/2001 12:04:23 PM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: winstonchurchill
I think you're talking over their heads.

The idea that Christ died FOR our sins, because we were sinful and unrepentant, so that we might share Heaven with the Father, is a concept that confounds and frightens the overly-sophisticated among us.

Like Mr. Pitt's friend said to Elaine on SEINFELD,
"Grace. You either have it or you don't."

161 posted on 10/29/2001 12:25:01 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: winstonchurchill
re : But, you are engaging in the typical liberal nonsense of 'blaming God' because we live in a sinful world of our (mankind's) own making.

No as far as I am concerned the only people who are responsible for the evil in this world are the people who live in it, it has nothing to do with God.

But we strayed from the point since I was not blaming God in the first place, what I did say was that America was attacked by Osama Bin Laden for Geopolitical reasons mixed up with some perverted religious ideas.

Nothing to do with God.

PS I love the if you disagree with me you must be a liberal attack, like the old reds under the beds.

Its wasted on me.

Tony

184 posted on 10/30/2001 2:05:47 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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