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Strictly for the birds ....for your Happy Thanksgiving
Your Right Wing Chef
| Oct. 29 2001
| Carlo3b
Posted on 10/28/2001 8:40:57 PM PST by carlo3b
Strictly for the birds ....for your Happy Thanksgiving
Every year I get dozens of inquires about what to do to get a moist, delicious turkey, ..well in case you were going to ask...
A Perfectly Roasted Turkey
As Thanksgiving approaches, cooking the traditional turkey dinner gives rise to questions on the best way to roast a turkey and how to tell for sure when its done. Check these answers to serve a "perfectly roasted turkey".
What's the best way to roast a turkey?
This traditional method consistently creates a juicy, tender, golden brown turkey!
Set the oven temperature no lower than 3250F.
Be sure the turkey is completely thawed. Times are based on fresh or completely thawed frozen birds at a refrigerator temperature of about 400F or below.
Place turkey breast side up on a flat wire rack in a shallow roasting pan 2 to 2½ inches deep. In the beginning, a tent of aluminum foil may be placed loosely over the breast of the turkey for the first 1 to 1½ hours, then removed for browning. Or, a tent of foil may be placed over the turkey after the turkey has reached the desired golden brown.
For uniform results, it is recommended to cook stuffing outside the bird. If stuffed, stuff loosely. It requires additional cooking time for the turkey and stuffing to reach a safe internal temperature (turkey, 1800F; and stuffing, 1650F).
For safety and doneness, the internal temperature should be checked with a meat thermometer. Several types of thermometers are available on the market; regular, ovenproof; instant read and digital; pop-up timers; and microwave-safe thermometers.
The temperature must reach a minimum of 1800F in the thigh before removing from the oven. The center of the stuffing should reach 1650F after stand time. (Cook a turkey breast at 1700F).
Juices should be clear. In the absence of a meat thermometer, pierce the turkey with a fork in several places; juices should be clear with not trace of pink.
Where does the meat thermometer go?
Place the tip in the thigh muscle just above and beyond the lower part of the thighbone, but not touching the bone. If using an oven-safe meat thermometer, insert it prior to placing the turkey in the oven and leave in while the turkey is roasting. Turn it so it can be read while the turkey is in the oven. If using an instant-read metal stem thermometer, do not leave it in the turkey during roasting.
My turkey never reaches 1800F in the cooking time recommended on the charts
Why?
Many variables can affect the actual roasting time. Did you use a deep pan, cover the bird with foil throughout most of the cooking time or not completely thaw the turkey prior to roasting? These are a few common things done that can lengthen the total cooking time.
Roasting time charts are based on using a 2-2½" shallow pan, shielding the breast loosely with a tent of foil for first 1 ½ hours or when the turkey is about two-thirds done and using a completely thawed turkey at refrigerator temperature.
Other variables include an oven that heats unevenly, inaccurate oven thermostat, rack position and a turkey or pan too large for the oven.
As you can see, timings not everything so use the roasting charts as a general guide and continue to depend on a thermometer properly placed to let you know for sure when the turkey is done.
Approximate cooking times for turkey
Unstuffed
8 to 12 pounds
2¾ to 3 hours
12 to 14 pounds
3 to 3¾ hours
14 to 18 pounds
3¾ to 4¼ hours
18 to 20 pounds
4¼ to 4½ hours
20 to 24 pounds
4½ to 5 hours
Stuffed8 to 12 pounds
3 to 3½ hours
12 to 14 pounds
3½ to 4 hours
14 to 18 pounds
4 to 4¼ hours
18 to 20 pounds
4¼ to 4¾ hours
20 to 24 pounds
4¾ to 5¼ hours
Let the turkey stand 20 minutes before carving to allow juices to set and enjoy your "perfectly roasted turkey"!
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: food; foodie; foodies; freeperkitchen; tg; thanksgiving
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To: stanz
Why iced water? I've never heard of this.I know. For the record, my step-mother is Italian, and I used to watch my Nonnie cook, and did not see this instruction. I just found out about this from a cooking show with some elder Italian lady. I believe her name is Mama Leone, and she sure appears to know her stuff.
It does make sense, however, as the iced water would certainly stop any further cooking, even better than the draining in cool water.
To: stanz
I asked Carlo for this recipe for you, and maybe someday we both will do the homemade mayo. I have tried to no avail..it is either curdly or runny..it's that darned drizzing part! This one does sound doable, although I don't think I would like the cornstarch addition.
Low Fat Mayonnaise
This mayonnaise recipe has only 18 calories per tablespoon and no cholesterol. Yield is about 2 cups.
2 cups cold water
2 tbsp cornstarch
1/4 cup olive oil
1/4 cup white vinegar
1/4 cup plain low-fat yogurt
2 tsp yellow mustard
1 tsp horseradish
Whisk together water and cornstarch in a small saucepan. Stir continously over a medium heat until the mixture comes to a boil. Continue stirring and boiling for 1-2 minutes or until the mixture is clear.
Pour mixture into a bowl and whisk the remaining ingredients, in order listed. Whisk.
Refrigerate in a tightly sealed container. Should keep about 2 weeks.
To spice up your tuna fish, mix in a smidgy of ketchup or red pepper sauce. For a sweeter "Miracle Whip"-like mixture, add in a tsp or two of sugar. __________________________________________________
To: Angelique; carlo3b; stanz; jellybean
I had a friend who used uncooked noodles and it was the best lasagna I've had. Probably need a bit more sauce and cook a bit longer.
To: Angelique
Thanks. Looks interesting. Will give it a try sometime.
244
posted on
11/29/2001 6:36:50 AM PST
by
stanz
To: christie
Trying to fax you something.
245
posted on
11/29/2001 8:49:22 AM PST
by
stanz
To: stanz
I love it. It's priceless! Wish we could post it! I hope you know this will put you on the hit list! (Would it be better to have USDA "disapproved"?
To: christie
Is it something that you can use for the cookbook, though?
247
posted on
11/29/2001 9:51:40 AM PST
by
stanz
To: stanz
It will definitely go into the cookbook, with your permission. I will freepmail you with an address.
To: christie
Yes, if you think it's acceptable, put it in. My daughter will be thrilled.
249
posted on
11/29/2001 12:42:00 PM PST
by
stanz
To: carlo3b
Good job carlo...this turkey thread has great legs and it hasn't ruffled to many feathers here except for laying a few mutilated eggs. I see a lot of FReeples gobbling this up as though they were on some gravy train.I can tell you are great guy cause you are not beating your breast over this and I haven't seen any foul committed in spite of the window dressing going on. TB
To: tubebender; Angelique; christie; firebrand; jellybean; stanz; piasa; Howie
Now don't get your gander up! I've been noticing the feathers flying over what to eat for a holiday dinner, and what bird brain thinks turkey is the only way to go. Well you can stuff that idea, the world is an oyster, and we must open it up to see what pearls are in store. However, there is something fishy about this thread, Lets see....
Seafood and Okra Gumbo
- 2 pounds fresh or frozen shrimp, head on about 40-50 count per pound
- 2 small blue crabs, fresh or frozen
- 3 quarts water, with 2 Tablespoons of cooking oil
- 1 quart fresh or frozen okra, sliced into rounds
- 2/3 cup cooking oil
- 1/2 cup all purpose flour
- 2 cups chopped onions
- 1 cup chopped green bell pepper
- 1/2 cup chopped celery
- 1 teaspoon garlic, finely chopped
- 1 16 oz. can chopped tomatoes
- 2 bay leaves
- 2 teaspoons salt, or to taste
- 1/2 teaspoon black pepper (or to taste)
- 1/2 teaspoon white pepper (or to taste)
- 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper (or to taste)
Peel and de-vein the shrimp, and set aside, covered in the refrigerator. Rinse the shrimp shells and heads, place in a non reactive stock pot along with 2 quarts of water. Bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer for 30 - 45 minutes to make a stock. Strain, discard the shells and heads and set the stock aside. Meanwhile, wash the crabs well under running water, place in a non reactive pot with 1 quart of water, bring to a boil and simmer for 20 - 30 minutes. Strain, reserving stock and crabs. When the crabs are cool enough to handle, snap both claws off then break the body in half. Set aside.
In a heavy bottomed skillet, heat 2 tablespoons of oil , add the okra and sauté over medium high heat for about 10 - 15 minutes or until all the "ropiness" is gone. This step may take a little longer if fresh okra is used. Frozen vegetables are usually plunged into boiling water and blanched before freezing, so they are partially cooked.
Place the 2/3 cup oil in a large (8 quart) heavy bottomed non reactive Dutch oven type pot. Add the flour and, over a medium high fire, make a dark brown roux. As soon as the proper color is achieved, add the onions, bell pepper, celery and garlic and sauté, stirring occasionally until tender. During this process, allow the vegetables to stick to the bottom of the pan a bit, then scrape the bottom with a metal spoon or spatula. This allows some of the natural sugars in the onions to caramelize, rendering great depth of flavor.
When the seasoning vegetables are tender add the tomatoes, bay leaves and the three peppers and a little salt. Cook for about 10 minutes, repeating the stick and scrape process with the tomatoes. Add the sautéed okra and cook for 10 more minutes.
Add the crab stock and half of the shrimp stock to the pot. Stirring constantly, bring the pot to a boil. Lower the heat a bit, partially cover and simmer for thirty minutes, stirring occasionally. If the gumbo appears too thick, add more stock to adjust. Add salt to taste and adjust the pepper if desired. Add the broken crabs and simmer for about 10 minutes. Add the peeled shrimp, return to a boil and simmer until the shrimp are firm and pink, about 5 minutes. Remove the pot from heat.
As is the case with most gumbos, this dish is best prepared either early in the day it is to be served, or even the day before, thereby allowing time for the flavors to marry. When reheating, stir often and be careful to avoid overcooking the shrimp.
Serve in large bowls over steamed rice. This recipe will yield about 6 entrees or 10 to 12 appetizers.
Holidays are wonderful, if you don't let'em kill ya! LOL
251
posted on
12/02/2001 8:10:26 AM PST
by
carlo3b
To: carlo3b; Angelique; stanz; piasa; Snow Bunny; Billie; DeckTheHallsHolly; christie
EAT CHOCOLATE!!!
- Chocolate is derived from cocoa beans. Bean = vegetable. Sugar is derived
- from either sugar CANE or sugar BEETS. Both are plants, which places them in the vegetable category. Thus, chocolate is a vegetable.
- To go one step further, chocolate candy bars also contain milk, which is dairy. So candy bars are a health food.
- Chocolate-covered raisins, cherries, orange slices and strawberries all count as fruit, so eat as many as you want.
- If you've got melted chocolate all over your hands, you're eating it too slowly.
- The problem: How to get 2 pounds of chocolate home from the store in a hot car.
The solution: Eat it in the parking lot. - Diet tip: Eat a chocolate bar before each meal. It'll take the edge off your appetite, and you'll eat less.
- If calories are an issue, store your chocolate on top of the fridge. Calories are afraid of heights, and they will jump out of the chocolate to protect themselves. (We're testing this with other snack foods as well.)
- If I eat equal amounts of dark chocolate and white chocolate, is that a balanced diet? Don't they actually counteract each other?
- Chocolate has many preservatives. Preservatives make you look younger. Therefore, you need to eat more chocolate.
- Put "eat chocolate" at the top of your list of things to do today. That way, at least you'll get one thing done.
- A nice box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake of calories in one place. Now, isn't that handy?
- If you can't eat all your chocolate, it will keep in the freezer. But if you can't eat all your chocolate, what's wrong with you?
- If not for chocolate, there would be no need for control top pantyhose. An entire garment industry would be devastated. You can't let that happen, can you?
- MEDICAL NEWS FLASH "Stressed" spelled backward is "desserts."
Send this to four women and you will lose two pounds. Send this to all the women you know (or ever knew), and you will lose 10 pounds.
If you delete this message, you will gain 10 pounds immediately. That's why I had to pass this on. I didn't want to risk it.
To: jellybean
ROTFL
I am eating chocolate covered cherries right now. Yummy!
Three cheers for chocolate!!! Thanks so much, I love your post.tee hee
To: jellybean; Snow Bunny; christie; carlo3b; stanz; piasa; TwoStep
I have the funniest story. My family had a very successful chocolate candy business, but as children, my brother and I were never allowed to eat candy. One night, I discovered that my papa actually hid chocolate in his sock drawer! LOL
The worst, though, was Easter Sunday when we got back from church, and his Chocolate Bunny was shaken by a mild earthquake from the top of his dresser, and broke into pieces. He actually said with a huge sigh, "But I just had perfectly eaten the ears." Now that is a chocolate lover!
To: carlo3b; christie; jellybean; stanz; TwoStep; piasa; Howie
I am sorry, but everytime I come over to this thread, Carlo, I go into fits of laughter about the degrees. This is the funniest thread ever to be encountered! BTW, I followed your instructions and my finished product looked like a nuked Robin. How many does this serve?
To: Angelique
What a marvelous story Angelique.Aren't our Daddy's the best.I love your story so much. Thank you.
To: carlo3b
Hey Carlo, are we gonna have a Christmas thread?
To: jellybean
Darn!! I wasn't ready to post that yet! I hit post instead of preview...@#%#&%!!!
To: Babylon Unleashed
We are about to put the Cookbook to bed. It has been an enormous project with over 200 contributors; all with talent or humour. I noticed that of all the contributors of over 25 threads, you have suggested this project was phoney. This is your last chance to submit a recipe or to state why you think we should not do a FReeper Clinton Legacy Cookbook.
To: carlo3b; All
Past Thanksgiving threads, reference.
260
posted on
11/23/2008 4:24:19 AM PST
by
Joya
(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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