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Strictly for the birds ....for your Happy Thanksgiving
Your Right Wing Chef | Oct. 29 2001 | Carlo3b

Posted on 10/28/2001 8:40:57 PM PST by carlo3b

Strictly for the birds ....for your Happy Thanksgiving
Every year I get dozens of inquires about what to do to get a moist, delicious turkey, ..well in case you were going to ask...


A Perfectly Roasted Turkey

As Thanksgiving approaches, cooking the traditional turkey dinner gives rise to questions on the best way to roast a turkey and how to tell for sure when its done. Check these answers to serve a "perfectly roasted turkey".

What's the best way to roast a turkey?
This traditional method consistently creates a juicy, tender, golden brown turkey!
Set the oven temperature no lower than 3250F.
Be sure the turkey is completely thawed. Times are based on fresh or completely thawed frozen birds at a refrigerator temperature of about 400F or below.
Place turkey breast side up on a flat wire rack in a shallow roasting pan 2 to 2½ inches deep. In the beginning, a tent of aluminum foil may be placed loosely over the breast of the turkey for the first 1 to 1½ hours, then removed for browning. Or, a tent of foil may be placed over the turkey after the turkey has reached the desired golden brown.
For uniform results, it is recommended to cook stuffing outside the bird. If stuffed, stuff loosely. It requires additional cooking time for the turkey and stuffing to reach a safe internal temperature (turkey, 1800F; and stuffing, 1650F).
For safety and doneness, the internal temperature should be checked with a meat thermometer. Several types of thermometers are available on the market; regular, ovenproof; instant read and digital; pop-up timers; and microwave-safe thermometers.
The temperature must reach a minimum of 1800F in the thigh before removing from the oven. The center of the stuffing should reach 1650F after stand time. (Cook a turkey breast at 1700F).

Juices should be clear. In the absence of a meat thermometer, pierce the turkey with a fork in several places; juices should be clear with not trace of pink.

Where does the meat thermometer go?
Place the tip in the thigh muscle just above and beyond the lower part of the thighbone, but not touching the bone. If using an oven-safe meat thermometer, insert it prior to placing the turkey in the oven and leave in while the turkey is roasting. Turn it so it can be read while the turkey is in the oven. If using an instant-read metal stem thermometer, do not leave it in the turkey during roasting.

My turkey never reaches 1800F in the cooking time recommended on the charts…Why?
Many variables can affect the actual roasting time. Did you use a deep pan, cover the bird with foil throughout most of the cooking time or not completely thaw the turkey prior to roasting? These are a few common things done that can lengthen the total cooking time.
Roasting time charts are based on using a 2-2½" shallow pan, shielding the breast loosely with a tent of foil for first 1 ½ hours or when the turkey is about two-thirds done and using a completely thawed turkey at refrigerator temperature.

Other variables include an oven that heats unevenly, inaccurate oven thermostat, rack position and a turkey or pan too large for the oven.

As you can see, timing’s not everything so use the roasting charts as a general guide and continue to depend on a thermometer properly placed to let you know for sure when the turkey is done.

Approximate cooking times for turkey

Unstuffed

    8 to 12 pounds
       2¾ to 3 hours
     
    12 to 14 pounds
       3 to 3¾ hours
     
    14 to 18 pounds
       3¾ to 4¼ hours
     
    18 to 20 pounds
       4¼ to 4½ hours
     
    20 to 24 pounds
       4½ to 5 hours

Stuffed
    8 to 12 pounds
      3 to 3½ hours
     
    12 to 14 pounds
       3½ to 4 hours
     
    14 to 18 pounds
       4 to 4¼ hours
     
    18 to 20 pounds
       4¼ to 4¾ hours
     
    20 to 24 pounds
       4¾ to 5¼ hours
 Let the turkey stand 20 minutes before carving to allow juices to set and enjoy your "perfectly roasted turkey"!

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: food; foodie; foodies; freeperkitchen; tg; thanksgiving
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To: Mercuria
TURKEY PIGEONS

Bwhahahhahaahhaahahahah...My kids would second that!!

201 posted on 11/25/2001 8:18:45 AM PST by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b
Hmm ... just noticed a recipe for something I've been wanting to make at home ... Cuban bread. But I have no bread machine. Can I borrow yours? ;-)
202 posted on 11/25/2001 8:47:09 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: carlo3b
Guiseppe, the son of a very wealthy banker, and the son of a modest dairy farmer named Paolo.... to make a long story short, the poor kid brought the parents of Elisabetta a basket of assorted Romano cheeses, and won their approval take their daughter's hand,

*SIGH!!* I just love a romantic story with a happy ending!! ...especially when it involves cheese And you tell it so well...heheheh

203 posted on 11/25/2001 11:06:39 AM PST by jellybean
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To: carlo3b
leftovers RULE!
204 posted on 11/25/2001 11:14:17 AM PST by rockfish59
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To: carlo3b
#195 The apple doesn't give any flavor, rather I suppose the moisture helps to make tender.

Mmmm, I'll have to think a bit, to come up with another "gem". ;-)

205 posted on 11/25/2001 1:22:41 PM PST by katze
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To: BunnySlippers
#202 Buy one, Bunny, you'll love it. I make Danish coffeecakes and rolls using mine, doing the dough, then rolling and enclosing the butter; also the dough is so easy to make scrumptious cinnamon rolls. The most difficulty of making yeast breads/rolls etc, is the kneading, and the machine does it all for you. I like carlo's bread, since it is baked in the oven, and that is what I do with most of mine, since I do not like the odd shaped-loaf the bread machine makes.
206 posted on 11/25/2001 1:30:01 PM PST by katze
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To: Angelique
#197 You're most likely correct about the juices adding flavor to the stuffing. OTOH, there is something about a big iron skillet with good bread dressing. I also see more chance of bacteria forming, if used to stuff the bird; at least that's what I've heard and read for many years.
207 posted on 11/25/2001 1:34:06 PM PST by katze
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To: carlo3b
Great story, thanks Carlo.
208 posted on 11/25/2001 2:47:00 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: katze
Maybe the bacteria police are correct, LOL, but the entire idea of stuffing has a purpose in meal preparation. What is dangerous is stuffing the Turkey the day before, or leaving the stuffing in the Turkey, but only if it is airtight. I've never seen the latter, unless, of course, no one scooped out the dressing, carved the turkey, etc.

My favorite recipe is to stuff trout or bass with a stuffing of shrimp, celery, bread crumbs, etc., and we all live!

209 posted on 11/25/2001 4:25:12 PM PST by Angelique
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To: carlo3b
LOL! Thanks for the heads up!
210 posted on 11/25/2001 6:47:33 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: carlo3b; christie; firebrand
Recipe from the kitchen:

Could you please clarify this recipe?

Chicken Dems Fried Steak with Pan Gravy 1 1/2 lbs. round steak, preferably tenderized

"Pound the round steak with the side of a saucer until it flattens and tenderizes. Cut away fat, remove bone, and cut into about 4 serving pieces. "

There could be concern about a lawsuit in using a saucer to tenderize the steak. Also, does one use top or bottom round? Wouldn't one cut the fat and bone first before pounding?

211 posted on 11/26/2001 7:17:48 AM PST by Angelique
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To: Angelique
"with an unbreakable saucer"? "Don't use the stolen White House china for this"?

Maybe better to say the flat side of a cleaver or a meat mallet. .

We could specify bottom round.

212 posted on 11/26/2001 7:58:25 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Angelique; christie; firebrand; Exit148; Irma; TwoStep; Snow Bunny
There could be concern about a lawsuit in using a saucer to tenderize the steak. Also, does one use top or bottom round? Wouldn't one cut the fat and bone first before pounding?

Hmmmmmmmm.......This recipe could be called, "The Trial Lawyers Pick the Bones Fried Steak!"
Here is a perfect example of the wonderful homespun value of our cookbook. This recipe is so modest, and oh so real that it reflected the available kitchen gadgets at hand in the south Oklahoma where it was hand written on an envelope dated 1932, mailed from Sherman Texas, and placed in an old church cookbook that  I bought from a garage sale years ago. It is apparent this was scribbled during the depression or even the dust storms in Oklahoma during the early 30's. I have not modified it, I believe, with the exception of the use of rendered pork fat, which would have made you loose it while formatting ...LOLOLOL

My only regret is I couldn't scan this recipe and many of the others I have in my collection in it's original form, and include some background on these wonderful authors. Pity is I destroyed most of them after preparing, modifying, and typing them into my data base. I really regret that now, and have kept the latest ones in a dry safe place, to give that information in any future Cookbooks I am crazy enough to try to produce.

I would recommend removal of the bones...Ha, and using top round, but the flavor and tenderizing would make bottom round just great! BTW, I am still going to use the side of a saucer to tenderize my beef, in memory of this great cook, but you could use a semi-bio-nuclear tenderizer, common in yuppie Northern California kitchens if you wish...Bwhahahhahahaha....ducking for cover!!

213 posted on 11/26/2001 9:40:05 AM PST by carlo3b
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To: firebrand; carlo3b; christie
Oh my goodness, now we have to concern ourselves with the china used to beat the beef! Perhaps a fist will do?

Seriously, for our cooks, is one of those wooden mallets OK?

214 posted on 11/26/2001 1:27:44 PM PST by Angelique
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To: firebrand
"with an unbreakable saucer"? "Don't use the stolen White House china for this"?

This gives a whole new meaning to "in the chips"

215 posted on 11/26/2001 1:34:45 PM PST by Angelique
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To: carlo3b
Dear Chef of the Future, I tried your Tofurky and mushroom gravy recipes. Pretty good even if it's not the real thing. I also made my stuffing using Boca Italian sausages(meatless, but delicious). Even my daughter's boyfriend liked it and he's not a vegan. We also made "Hillary's Lead Bottom Apple Pie" which is a favorite of ours every holiday. Today I'm sitting here with my waistband unbuttoned!!!
216 posted on 11/26/2001 1:51:33 PM PST by stanz
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To: LeeMcCoy; christie; carlo3b; jellybean; RJayneJ; Teacup; gonzo; MozartLover...
3250 degrees F? Wow! That must be some oven you got, Carlo. :)

OK cooking fans. Here is a recipe for making stuffed eggs. It is not BAD for you. It has been noted that eggs are effective in reducing macular degeneration!

This is a treat for all of you! Stolen Stuffed Eggs My grandpa was an immigrant who succeeded in America. As part of his plan, he purchased a ranch in CA to extend his love to his children. Part of our experience, as grandchildren, was to go to the ranch every Easter to hunt for eggs, but the best part was to learn from my older male cousins how to steal those delicious stuffed eggs Grandma made. She turned her back with a smile. In her memory, I made these eggs this Thanksgiving...out of sync, but maybe perfect sync.

For this recipe, one must know some cooking experience:
Hard boiled eggs--Tip let them cool before refrigeration
Remove yolks, and smash in a bowl with a fork
Add mayo to taste, along with salt and pepper. Use a fork to crumble the yolks, and to blend ingredients.
Use a grinder, or a fork, if that is all that is handy, and moosh the shrimp. Stir into the yolks.
Grate some green bell pepper finely grated and toss in, along with some finely chopped green onions.
Add a fine touch of curry, and Dijon mustard.

I swear these eggs are to die for! Of course, if you steal them, you may suffer the rath of my grandma....who is still smiling!

217 posted on 11/26/2001 2:39:51 PM PST by Angelique
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To: Angelique
Seriously, for our cooks, is one of those wooden mallets OK?

jumping up and waving hand ..........I know that ......I know that ......pick me ..........pleaseeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

...yes, you can hit it with wood, or an Acme brick if you feel so inclined, beep, beep .....snicker .....LOLOLOLOLOL

218 posted on 11/26/2001 5:13:05 PM PST by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b
I beieve my grandmother would hit you over the head with whatever untensil is avaiable. It is important to ship up or shape out!
219 posted on 11/26/2001 5:18:25 PM PST by Angelique
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To: Angelique
We have always referred to those eggs as Deviled Eggs. Have you heard them called that? Wife just informed me she sometimes puts a little Deviled Ham in the mix. Maybe that is why we called them Deviled Eggs.LOL
220 posted on 11/26/2001 5:33:57 PM PST by tubebender
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