[clee1]

I encourage all responses to this post.

[AMMON-CENTRIST]

We are not Rome clee. This ain't Alexander the Great.

[EggsAckley]

You make some very good points, and are very brave to stand by them.
I hope you have your flameproof suit on, the "rude-dudes" are in the building.

[Restorer]

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

What do you do when "the people" believe that a form of government you think dangerous is "most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness?" Hitler came to power legally and democratically (sort of). Truly free elections would probably result in the election of Islamist governments in much of the Muslim world. Certainly the Islamists in Algeria a decade or so ago won the election overwhelmingly. The Iranian Revolution was tremendously popular with "the people."

I'm afraid your approach is based on the premise that other peoples all share our ideals. What about those who don't? Do we then conquer and attempt to impose our values on them? In Islamic countries this would necessitate something very close to religious persecution to be effective. Is this something we want to get into?

I don't disagree with your basic premise. I just don't think it is practical when much of the world's population doesn't just want the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

That is essentially a libertarian ideal. The vast majority of the world's population holds other ideals. So what do you do with them? Just kill them? That's a LOT of dead people.

[Arthur McGowan]

You'd love Murrary Rothbard's essay (I think it was Murray Rothbard): "Invade the World!"

[Uprise]

I think it is time for America, or rather "the Ideals of America" to dominate the planet Earth.

Abortion on demand (killing of the young); open floodgates of bloody imagery into the young psychic minds via television and hollywood; rampant establishment induced anomie; multicultural dislocation; deracination; demolition of common historical past in favor of mass consumerism. I wouldn't wish the ideals of America on the rest of the world.

[StoneColdGOP]

Empire time... heh heh heh!

[Free the USA]

I think you are right there is no way the UN will ever be able to help America protect itself or our interests. We can learn from the errors of the Roman Empire and the mistakes made during the Colonial age. By helping to eliminate many of the extremist’s governments that harbor terrorists and establish a worldwide system of free trade we can create a World based more on cooperation than on coercion. By encouraging or if necessary imposing Governments that recognize individual rights and the consent of the governed and then creating a system of interdependence based on free trade we can move into a new era in International relations.

[biffalobull]

Countries like China and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are not our "friends", they are merely "trading partners" or in some cases just politically convenient to have around or leave alone. We should immediately revoke all support and trade with governments that are not democracies or free market economies, and deport their citizens living here. Countries like China and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are not our "friends", they are merely "trading partners" or in some cases just politically convenient to have around or leave alone. I think Americans will be under constant attack from forces of evil unless we get with the program and eradicate these forces from the face of the earth. Terrorists, Leftists, non-constitutional monarchies, dictatorships, theocracies and oligarchies are all enemies to the American Way and should be eliminated by all the force we can muster. Diplomatic, economic, military and covert means should be used to destroy thes groups so that the world can finally live in peace and prosperity.

Say Pal, We couldn't get rid of Saddam Hussien. I'll bet we never bring OBL to justice.We didn't defeat Korea, or Viet Nam. I think you have your work cut out for you.

[RonWebb]

"Terrorists, Leftists, non-constitutional monarchies, dictatorships, theocracies and oligarchies are all enemies to the American Way and should be eliminated by all the force we can muster."

This is EXACTLY why they hate us. Pure arrogance. If the American Way is so great, then let the rest of the world adopt it on their own. Don't force your ideals on others.

[WRhine]

IMHO, I think Americans will be under constant attack from forces of evil unless we get with the program and eradicate these forces from the face of the earth. Terrorists, Leftists, non-constitutional monarchies, dictatorships, theocracies and oligarchies are all enemies to the American Way and should be eliminated by all the force we can muster. Diplomatic, economic, military and covert means should be used to destroy thes groups so that the world can finally live in peace and prosperity.

I kind of like the outcome of this dream of yours. It would be nice but aren't you talking about America taking on the entire non-Western world all at once? We got our plate pretty full with our war on terrorism which will take years to complete. But it seems to me that America over the decades has been very successful in influencing many countries to get rid of their ruling monarchies and replacing it with democracy. As long as America prospers, America will be the model other countries will want to follow.

[dr_who]

Heated reactions? Hardly. I think you're a harmless nut.

[monocle]

Aren't our taxes high enough? Have you given any thought to how much it would cost to support Africa, let alone the rest of the world?

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

KINDA SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO DO .....TAKE OVER THE WORLD .....THEIR IDEALS ARE WRONG FOR THE WORLD BUT ARE OK FOR SOCIALISTS AND COMMUNISTS

AMERICAS IDEALS ARE OK FOR AMERICANS WHO ARE NOT SOCIALIST OR COMMUNIST BUT WE SHOULD NOT TRY TO PUSH OUR IDEALS ONTO ANY NATION THAT IS NOT WILLING FREELY TO LISTEN ........ THAT WOULD MAKE US NO BETTER THAN THE UNITED NATIONS AND IN SOME CASES IT COULD BE WORSE ....

SO I SAY IF THEY WANT TO BE FREE LET THEM WRITE THEIR OWN CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS OR SOME FACSIMILE OF THE DOCUMENT WITH THEIR OWN IDEALS OF WHAT THEIR FREEDOM INTERPRETS NOT OURS

ALTHOUGH I FIND YOUR IDEA INTERESTING IT WOULD NOT BE VIABLE TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD IN THE NAME AND IDEALS OF ANY COUNTRY OR NATION

AND A BUMP TO YA FOR FREE THINKING

[Henchman]

Why would I want to foster the CURRENT state of America on the poor slobs of the world? I prefer to kill the slobs when they attack me. I am for liberty - let them screw up their own country. If they want to kill each other over religion, give the weapons.

[lawdude]

This should spark some flames

[dfrussell]

Let me be polite, you seem somewhat less than thoughful.

You cannot legislate or force morality upon people nor can you legislate or force acceptance upon people.

It has been tried several times recently and not worked.

I think the word you're looking for is fascism.

[Kermit]

What exactly are you proposing?

[Free the USA]

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