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To: Avoiding_Sulla
True reform of the existing two parties would begin with a third party. IMHO
6 posted on 10/27/2001 7:27:43 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
True reform of the existing two parties would begin with a third party.

Sam, I once thought that approach had great promise. Maybe it still does. What can you suggest to solve the myriad obstacles facing third parties?
For reasons we could discuss for days, the complexities working against third parties seem immense.

I believe we stand a chance if we could find a way to overcome, one at time, the advantages enjoyed by the established order.

For instance: the money machine. It pays for the existing parties in ways that even leaves us fighting against our own money. The media's propaganda is funded mostly by the ads of business interests in the off season, which we pay for with our patronage of the businesses; and by protected monied interests during campaign season, which we pay for in other ways. Boycotts and patronage are tools. FReeping appears to be a growing tactic. But it isn't strategic. How do you plan on shifting the allegiance of old party loyalists to the new?

Other questions: Why have third parties mostly failed? Have any really succeeded? Where and how and under what circumstances?

Historically, it appears to be far harder to succeed with a new party than gradually gain some sway over branches of existing parties. (And even if you do, what happens when the parent org abandons your branch?) Whichever choice, either is a demanding job.

It is indeed troubling at how the two parties seemed to have merged into what could be called "the party of the ruling class."

16 posted on 10/30/2001 11:02:38 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
McCain will start the third party all we have to do is block him as the Republican nominee.
78 posted on 11/11/2006 5:06:51 PM PST by right way right
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