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Tehran gripped by worst rioting since revolution
Independent/UK ^ | 10/27/01 | Nick Pelham in Tehran

Posted on 10/26/2001 11:10:20 PM PDT by kattracks

Tens of thousands of young people have taken to the streets of Iran in the past week, causing some of the worst violence in the history of the 22-year-old Islamic revolution.

The youths – both boys and girls – used two World Cup football qualifying fixtures as an excuse to reclaim the streets and assert their hunger for Western culture and freedoms.

In Tehran, the young people braved tear gas and blows from the security forces to cavort to the sound of the Western pop star Sonique, blaring from radios. Girls blew hooters at Islamic vigilantes armed with staves while their boyfriends fought riot police with stones and homemade explosives.

Shock at a 3-1 loss against Bahrain on Sunday sparked two nights of nationwide protests and the crowds returned to the streets on Wednesday following a 1-0 victory against the Emirates.

"What we're witnessing are the sort of demonstrations which preceded the last months of the Shah,'' said a senior Iranian analyst who wanted his name withheld.

Dozens of banks have been burned and cars overturned as the authorities set up special courts to try more than a thousand detainees officially denounced as football hooligans.

But the chanting of the crowds has been overtly political. Youths taunted groups of brutal Islamic vigilantes known as Bassiji, Persian for holy warriors, and chanted zindibad azadi [long live freedom].

The 11 September attacks have boosted pro-Western voices. Iran has emerged as one of the few Muslim states where people have taken to the streets in sympathy with the US.

Conservatives remain suspicious that expressions of sympathy hide a broader agenda of counter-revolution. Earlier this month in Mohseni Square – a part of Tehran so Westernised that Iranians call it the 51st state of America – police used clubs to disperse a crowd of mourners, including elderly women, holding a vigil for the New York attacks.

Hard-liners say that the war in Afghanistan marks the final stage in the military encirclement of Iran. In addition to the US arsenal in the Persian Gulf, Washington now has thousands of troops close to Iran's eastern border with Pakistan and to the north in Tajikistan.

Western efforts to bring back the exiled shah of Afghanistan are arousing fears of a similar plot to restore a shah to Iran. In silent protests on Sunday, demonstrators in Mohseni Square claimed Reza Pahlavi, the son of the ousted late shah, as their spiritual leader.

Opposition satellite TV channels beamed from Los Angeles have stoked a growing nostalgia for the monarchy. In a belated effort to muzzle the royalists, the Islamic vigilantes have swooped on the rooftops of northern Tehran confiscating hundreds of satellite dishes.

But popular pressure has already extracted concessions from the ayatollahs. While women are still barred from attending football games, they now occupy the front desks in Iranian hotels and strut the streets holding hands with their boyfriends.

Opposition to the great Satan of the US has given way to tacit support for the attack on the Taliban and an official policy of "active neutrality'' in the American bombing. Iran has also undertaken to rescue any US airmen downed in Afghanistan.

Newspaper editorials have openly appealed to the clerics not to waste the opportunity to mend relations with the US and have called on President Khatami to join the alliance.


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To: FITZ; KO5A
I have always been told the same thing, that the youth have never stopped their popular culture "resistance", that they partied away in hiding from the religious police.
41 posted on 10/27/2001 12:03:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
Opposition to the great Satan of the US has given way to tacit support for the attack on the Taliban and an official policy of "active neutrality'' in the American bombing. Iran has also undertaken to rescue any US airmen downed in Afghanistan.

Thanks for the flag.

42 posted on 10/27/2001 12:19:55 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: americalost
Exactly! This is a very good thing if true!
43 posted on 10/27/2001 12:24:32 AM PDT by brat
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To: Sabertooth
This counter-pressure form the Iranian "street" might be part of the reason Iran is looking the other way if we use their airspace.

Things are looking up.

44 posted on 10/27/2001 12:26:34 AM PDT by MaeWest
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To: kattracks
causing some of the worst violence in the history of the 22-year-old Islamic revolution.

You know, don't revolutions ever END? We don't go around saying we're in the 225th year of the American Revolution.

45 posted on 10/27/2001 12:28:06 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: kattracks
In the 70s and 80s I worked for a big company with major interests, in Iran. When the revolution took place, my boss was shattered.

He had traveled the world over, many times. Tehran was his favorite business trip destination (except for cab rides), so he said.

The Shah was a tyrant, but a western looking one. Law abiding folks could get educated at home and abroad, and reap the benefits of a growing economy. That basically all changed, with the mullahs. But the western, liberal legacy remains.

I was enraged over our hostages. Yet compared to the current breed of terrorists, and their crimes against humanity, the Iran event was fairly tame.

If this "uprising" results in some liberalization, and movement toward normal relations with the west, I support it, obviously. I don't look for a 180 degree shift, but it signals significant discontent; which will be placated, or stamped down.

If it were to be stamped down, it won't go away. The Shah's son has been in the US all along, as a "shadow" candidate, to again lead "his" nation. Just as the Shah was forced out, so could the current mullah fanatics be put under extreme pressure.

Iranians are NOT arabs; they carefully classify themselves as "caucasians" and "ayrians." Before the revolution, there were Jews in Iran, but most fled for their lives. Same for Christians, I expect.

The citizens have had it both ways, now: Under the Shah, and under the mullahs. Are they changing choices? Do they have a say?

46 posted on 10/27/2001 12:38:29 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Timesink
"You know, don't revolutions ever END? "

Interesting question, actually. Revolutions are often fought and won with a lot of young men. They take power, rise through the ranks... And the Revolution continues.

The Revolution ends when the youngest revolutionary dies of old age.

Remember when the Soviets went through Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, and finally Gorbachev in the space of a few years? The first three were pretty much the last of the Bolshevik Revolutionaries in the Politburo. Once they were gone, the revolution died, and voila! ...Perestroika.

Similar stuff is starting to happen now in China.

Give it another 10 or 20 years, and it'll happen in the American Civil Rights movement, as well.

Jesse and Sharpton are just about the last of the active orifinal arm-linkers.

47 posted on 10/27/2001 12:43:49 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: kattracks
There may be some hope for the world after all. Riot on!
49 posted on 10/27/2001 12:47:11 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: oyez
good question
50 posted on 10/27/2001 12:58:54 AM PDT by Red Jones
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To: FITZ
that's very good news. I'm glad to hear from someone who knows.

I know that in Iran there are struggles between different sides unlike in the Arab countries. Also, this conflict in Iran is serious enough that he hard-line group in charge has killed dozens of opponents I believe in the last 5 years.

51 posted on 10/27/2001 1:03:28 AM PDT by Red Jones
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To: GeronL
First, what is it you expect us to do about the situation in Iran?

Second, if the locals want freedom they may just have to go earn it themselves instead of depending on others to do it for them.

52 posted on 10/27/2001 1:16:23 AM PDT by DB
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To: kattracks
Can anyone dare predict what the world will be like in just five years??? I don't have any idea...
53 posted on 10/27/2001 1:19:39 AM PDT by DB
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To: Hillary 666
"...hooters is always a good thing..."

Be careful what you ask for, my friend, you just might get it! Stay well and vigilant...FRegards

55 posted on 10/27/2001 1:50:01 AM PDT by gonzo
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To: onyx
How would have guesses that Iran would end up a supporter. I would say that they have earned at lease 30 cases of M-16's and some rocket launchers... and maybe a few of those HumV's that have the stingers mounted on the back... very cool!
56 posted on 10/27/2001 2:03:30 AM PDT by Cybear
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To: kattracks
I have to be fair.

I don't believe this source when the news is bad. I have to doubt it when the news is good.

57 posted on 10/27/2001 2:08:54 AM PDT by TheLooseThread
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To: kattracks
I don't find this suprising at all. What most don't understand is that Iran is really a theocratic republic
that has more freedoms (albeight not a lot of religious ones) than any other of the dictatorships in the rest of
the Islamic world. Over the last 10 years the power of the clerical executive has been continuously whittled away
much like the power of the British monarchies. That is "sharia" like laws have continuously been relaxed not
strengthened over the years. Iran's secular legislature heads have made frequent overtures to the west
often in secret and behind the scenes. There is an interesting tension in it's goverment, admittedly alien to
us but likely a result of its unique constitution. Another difference is that Iran has a huge middle class
which has largely embraced western capitalism. It took Amercians more than a generation to get over our
disagreements with the British and King George. I feel the same will eventually happen in our relationship with
Iran due to our support of the Shah. If your look at the rest of our so-called allies Egypt, Saudia Arabia, et
al., one has to wonder what long term price we are paying for supporting dictators who at the same time
actually foment anti-US sentiment to distract their people from internal problems.
58 posted on 10/27/2001 2:28:34 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Vigilanteman
Iran was not democratic pre revolution but they are moving forward. www.irna.com is an iranian news site that gives a good idea of where they are at. Iranian muslims are Shi'ites who are much more progressive than the Wahabbis and Sunnis that make up bin Laden's crew.
59 posted on 10/27/2001 2:36:47 AM PDT by M R Ross
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To: Hillary 666
Hooters hooters, yum yum yum
Hooters hooters,
On a girl that's dumb...

Ahh, a follower of the great philosopher, Al Bundy! LOL!

60 posted on 10/27/2001 3:41:25 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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