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Tehran gripped by worst rioting since revolution
Independent/UK ^ | 10/27/01 | Nick Pelham in Tehran

Posted on 10/26/2001 11:10:20 PM PDT by kattracks

Tens of thousands of young people have taken to the streets of Iran in the past week, causing some of the worst violence in the history of the 22-year-old Islamic revolution.

The youths – both boys and girls – used two World Cup football qualifying fixtures as an excuse to reclaim the streets and assert their hunger for Western culture and freedoms.

In Tehran, the young people braved tear gas and blows from the security forces to cavort to the sound of the Western pop star Sonique, blaring from radios. Girls blew hooters at Islamic vigilantes armed with staves while their boyfriends fought riot police with stones and homemade explosives.

Shock at a 3-1 loss against Bahrain on Sunday sparked two nights of nationwide protests and the crowds returned to the streets on Wednesday following a 1-0 victory against the Emirates.

"What we're witnessing are the sort of demonstrations which preceded the last months of the Shah,'' said a senior Iranian analyst who wanted his name withheld.

Dozens of banks have been burned and cars overturned as the authorities set up special courts to try more than a thousand detainees officially denounced as football hooligans.

But the chanting of the crowds has been overtly political. Youths taunted groups of brutal Islamic vigilantes known as Bassiji, Persian for holy warriors, and chanted zindibad azadi [long live freedom].

The 11 September attacks have boosted pro-Western voices. Iran has emerged as one of the few Muslim states where people have taken to the streets in sympathy with the US.

Conservatives remain suspicious that expressions of sympathy hide a broader agenda of counter-revolution. Earlier this month in Mohseni Square – a part of Tehran so Westernised that Iranians call it the 51st state of America – police used clubs to disperse a crowd of mourners, including elderly women, holding a vigil for the New York attacks.

Hard-liners say that the war in Afghanistan marks the final stage in the military encirclement of Iran. In addition to the US arsenal in the Persian Gulf, Washington now has thousands of troops close to Iran's eastern border with Pakistan and to the north in Tajikistan.

Western efforts to bring back the exiled shah of Afghanistan are arousing fears of a similar plot to restore a shah to Iran. In silent protests on Sunday, demonstrators in Mohseni Square claimed Reza Pahlavi, the son of the ousted late shah, as their spiritual leader.

Opposition satellite TV channels beamed from Los Angeles have stoked a growing nostalgia for the monarchy. In a belated effort to muzzle the royalists, the Islamic vigilantes have swooped on the rooftops of northern Tehran confiscating hundreds of satellite dishes.

But popular pressure has already extracted concessions from the ayatollahs. While women are still barred from attending football games, they now occupy the front desks in Iranian hotels and strut the streets holding hands with their boyfriends.

Opposition to the great Satan of the US has given way to tacit support for the attack on the Taliban and an official policy of "active neutrality'' in the American bombing. Iran has also undertaken to rescue any US airmen downed in Afghanistan.

Newspaper editorials have openly appealed to the clerics not to waste the opportunity to mend relations with the US and have called on President Khatami to join the alliance.


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To: Don Joe
Hah!

Caught the typo too late, but didn't get the entendre.

Nice call.

141 posted on 10/27/2001 11:36:41 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: kattracks
The U.S. need to Bomb Tehran now. Bomb them with Levis, western pop music CDs, Pepsi and Coke.
142 posted on 10/27/2001 11:38:03 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: LibWhacker; majic12
It cetainly is refreshing to see a discussion amongst two people with differing views. I was shocked not to see any name calling from either of you. AttaBoys, from me.
143 posted on 10/27/2001 11:43:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: error99
"...Girls blew hooters at Islamic vigilantes ..."

I want to know more details about this...

Details? Hell! I want pictures!

144 posted on 10/27/2001 11:44:11 AM PDT by uglybiker
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To: Travis McGee; kattracks; Snow Bunny
People may want freedom but those who have it won't fight to keep it. Lost Freedom
145 posted on 10/27/2001 11:44:24 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: kattracks
They want the freedoms, but do they want the responsibilities? Do they understand the underlying basis of freedom and its cost? If not, they will only replace one tyranny with another and then wonder what went wrong.
146 posted on 10/27/2001 11:45:50 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: LibWhacker
"We certainly didn't see that many Iranians demonstrating against the regime during the 80s and 90s -- inside or outside Iran.

Have you ever talked to a Persian? I have met dozens. I never met one who didn't hate the regime.

147 posted on 10/27/2001 11:50:29 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Rebelbase
"Bomb them with Levis, western pop music CDs, Pepsi and Coke."

Nobody can build a just and free society with these. Better to bomb them with Robert Conquest, Ludwig von Mises, Thomas Sowell and the Federalist Papers.

148 posted on 10/27/2001 11:51:34 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: carpio
Thanks for the ping, carpio! This is good news, indeed! I hope it is true.

The yearning of the human spirit for freedom is irrepressible, even if it takes the form of teenagers desiring American pop culture. As artificial, and superficial as it is, Americans are free to indulge in it, or leave it alone. I wish these young people well!

149 posted on 10/27/2001 11:53:49 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: reg45
The split is not unlike the split in Christianity (Catholic vs. Protestant) but far more extreme.

I'm sure glad you add that 'far more extreme' part!
The two situations are not really comparable, IMO.

150 posted on 10/27/2001 11:58:16 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Illbay
The Shah was often criticized for his autocratic rule, although it must be said that if one accepted his rule without question, he could live the rest of his life more or less freely.

That may not impress us in the U.S. but compare it to the Talibastards or the Khomeini regime.

During an interview, I think in Europe, the Shah responded to this criticism by saying "When my people begin to act like Swedes, I will act like the King of Sweden.

151 posted on 10/27/2001 11:59:38 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Bonaparte
"Nobody can build a just and free society with these"

These are youth. First you have to capture their attention.

152 posted on 10/27/2001 12:02:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Mr.Smorch
You are right, Mr. Smorch. I beleive the Carter policy was to "destabilize" this reliable, strategic and oil-rich Western ally, apparently because the Shah's method of keeping the mullahs in line was a bit much for the squeamish little Jimmuh.

As a result, the ayatolloh followed, and opened Pandora's Box.

153 posted on 10/27/2001 12:05:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: carpio
Good news, huh?
Maybe.
I don't see this as much more than the political pendulum swinging in the other direction which assumes there's a shred of truth to it to start.
Of what significance this would have to the price of tea in China?
No one knows; nor, could they say for sure.
After all, absolute power corrupts absolutely, eh.

On the same topic of, "Who's On First?"
This morning on FNC they ran a *news* ribbon at the bottom of the screen essentially claiming something like, "Libya's Col. Mohamar Khadafi Pledges To Help US Locate Islamic Terrorists."
...and I thought, "Oh God, no. Not that."

I mean, those culturesin the mideast?
They're a virtual laugh a minute.

154 posted on 10/27/2001 12:56:06 PM PDT by Landru
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To: hinckley buzzard
I have to tell you an interesting comment made to me by an Iranian lady after Reagan was elected, but before his inauguration. She said: "When Reagan becomes President Reagan, the hostages will be released." I said to her: "why do you think that?" and she replied: "I know my people, and they respect strength. The ayatollahs are afraid of Reagan. They will release the hostages, and release them soon." Isn't it interesting that the hostages were released as the gipper was being sworn in. The liberal media, in their usual delusional fog, portrayed it as a final slap at the hapless jimmuh, which in some respects, was problaby partialy true. However, the greater motivational factor was fear, fear of the gipper, fear of what Reagan might do to their shiite terrorist state.
155 posted on 10/27/2001 1:04:27 PM PDT by AdvisorB
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To: kattracks
This is good news.
156 posted on 10/27/2001 1:13:21 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: DB
Second, if the locals want freedom they may just have to go earn it themselves instead of depending on others to do it for them.

Good thing Lafayette didn't think that way.

157 posted on 10/27/2001 1:31:07 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: carpio
Thanks for the ping...what could save that nation is it's middle class, and it could follow the route of Turkey.Note the Iranians have seized the opportunity to make amends with the US, and are attempting a serious rapproachment.Wait and see over the next 3 months, as if they loosen the screws, I wonder if its all over for them, much as it was for Gorby in Soviet Union.
158 posted on 10/27/2001 1:40:37 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: GeronL
I wish the US government would support peoples who yearn for freedom under repressive governments.... yet they seem to be back tracking even from Israel.

Looks like our second target should be Iran. The time is ripe for pro-Western government revolution.

Iran as an ally in the region could nullify negative affects of Saudi and Iraqi oil interuptions.

I hope the president's experts are cultivating the right fields now. What a coup if it could be pulled-off!!!!!!!!

159 posted on 10/27/2001 1:42:38 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: DB
I just hope when and if their revolution happens, we are like the French in our Rev. war and pick the right side.
160 posted on 10/27/2001 1:50:11 PM PDT by Wrigley
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