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Americans are fighting two different wars.
self | Oct 26,2001 | Capt. Tom

Posted on 10/26/2001 7:16:14 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

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We will need bullets and bombs for the terrorists.

We can win the other war with political skill and defeat the native born socialist enemy at the polls.

Stay focused.-Tom

1 posted on 10/26/2001 7:16:14 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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So true. Most of the congresscritters who have suddenly become Sunshine Patriots are the same clymers who allowed this atrocity to happen.
2 posted on 10/26/2001 7:24:06 PM PDT by janus
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To: Capt. Tom
You are living in the past.
3 posted on 10/26/2001 7:28:09 PM PDT by codeword
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To: codeword
What is past is prologue.
4 posted on 10/26/2001 7:30:47 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: codeword
Where were you for the last forty years? More to the point, where are you now?
5 posted on 10/26/2001 7:32:34 PM PDT by martian_22
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To: codeword
You are living in the past.

You mean like last month on September 10th??-Tom

6 posted on 10/26/2001 7:35:01 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: codeword
So-called conservatives are just as much to blame. The nanny state as represented by the war on drugs has taken away more of our liberties than anything the liberals have done, and has turned the hearts of our people away from our institutions, our police and our courts. It has corrupted our law enforcement system, our political system, and our banking system, and has turned a generation into felons. And it goes on and on even though the last two presidents and the Governor of Florida all have partaken of some illegal substance. There's a lot of blame to go around for the current political given that one has the right to control whatever his neighbor does that is offensive.
8 posted on 10/26/2001 7:44:53 PM PDT by stryker
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To: codeword
You are living in the past.

you apparently need to go buy a book on islam, and have a big group hug with the current tense.

9 posted on 10/26/2001 7:45:55 PM PDT by glock rocks
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You, Sir, have described exactly the cultural and societal rot many of us witnessed over the last 40 years. Many a time I have railed at leftist friends that "this used to be a good country", the implication being that none of this happened under the watch of Conservatives. Well put.
10 posted on 10/26/2001 7:49:02 PM PDT by x1stcav
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You've got to be kidding me! Did you come to this vision through your bong, or around it?
11 posted on 10/26/2001 7:58:46 PM PDT by mfreddy
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To: Capt. Tom
short of colon powell getting too involved in our progress on the foreign front, we will
likely prevail there

as for the home front, the socialists are still pushing their anti-liberty agenda,
and i don't share your enthusiasm that they have been put to pasture.
but i do appreciate your optimism, and a little more prayer couldn't but help all of us.
well put. thanks. stay safe.

12 posted on 10/26/2001 8:03:34 PM PDT by glock rocks
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"...but i do appreciate your optimism,"

Optimism born of naiveté. Commie/Socialist roots run deeper in this country than the past 30-40 years (see: FDR). Joe Mac warned us about the infiltration in the early '50s, and that was when it had festered for about 10-20 years. Look at the Venona papers...our opponents consist of far more than some crazed anti-American ragheads in the mid-east, and an entrenched group of idealistic academes. Unbeknownst to far too many, there is a much wider range of true America haters already within our gates, that view our nation's destruction as the desired end-state.

13 posted on 10/26/2001 8:22:22 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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Optimism born of naiveté. Commie/Socialist roots run deeper in this country than the past 30-40 years

I hope you don't think I am naive about this. The very reason for my posting my thoughts was so that we would not forget the enemy within. We are focused on the Afghanistan situation and we also should be aware of what is going on at home here.

We have to beat them at the polls, they are not going away. They were born and raised here and hate this country and its constitution.

I am hardly naive about them,but I do honestly believe they got a setback on Sept. 11th. -Tom

14 posted on 10/26/2001 8:30:55 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Great stuff Capt. The Shakespearian quote from another contributor says a lot too. "What is past, is prologue" . Oh yeah, Codeword old buddy, just got in- if I read it right. I predict that if American and British blood flows and it might, somebody will, as you Americans put it "kick a**" on the home front. Just watch the cowardly peaceniks run if it happens. Cheers
15 posted on 10/26/2001 8:35:35 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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"I hope you don't think I am naive about this. The very reason for my posting my thoughts was so that we would not forget the enemy within. We are focused on the Afghanistan situation and we also should be aware of what is going on at home here.

We have to beat them at the polls, they are not going away. They were born and raised here and hate this country and its constitution.

I am hardly naive about them, but I do honestly believe they got a setback on Sept. 11th. -Tom"

I’m not implying you are naive...I think your remarks are rather spot on. I'm taking a shot at the Libertarian/ deep end conservatives who profess that:

1. Our military is strictly for protection of our territorial sovereignty, and that we should avoid foreign entanglements (misquoting the very first George W.),

yet,

rage against abuses of Posse Commitatus when U.S. military assets are used to protect our borders.

2. Remind us all that both enlisted and officer oaths bind one to oppose enemies "foreign and domestic(emphasis added),

yet,

insist the U.S. military has no law enforcement role within our borders.

Such schizophrenic pronouncements demonstrate a degree of uncertainty that has no place in a nation at war.

3. Rage against the abuses and excesses of domestic law enforcement,

yet,

contend that law enforcement has been ineffective and not done anywhere near enough to prevent the events of the last month or so.

Rage against the fact that

16 posted on 10/26/2001 8:48:36 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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Thank you sir! I've noticed the same tendencies you mention among my liberal associates. I of course had to mention that many of the Conservative ideals they previously mocked: prayer, patriotism, immigration control, the right to own a gun, etc.. are now gaining respect again. This is not to say I believe our fight is over....but we took at least the first hill!
17 posted on 10/26/2001 8:52:38 PM PDT by Faithfull
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Unfortunately, I think the setback they suffered is only temporary. They have succeeded in implementing their vision of the New American Police State outlined in a report, dated Januray 31, 2001 which has been in the works since the early 90's. The commission itself was convened in '98.

Cans you spell H-O-M-E-L-A-N-D S-E-C-U-R-I-T-Y?

Yes, the socialists suffered a philosophical setback as a result of September 11, but they are making up for it with a vengeance. Now, we're getting reports of "right-wing hate groups" being the cause of the Anthrax. They're very flexible and adaptable at maximizing any opportunity, including an apparent defeat. Don't let your guard down!

18 posted on 10/26/2001 9:09:03 PM PDT by KirkandBurke
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And don't forget about the people who are teaching our nation's children.

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It's up to you as teachers to make all of these sick children well, by creating the international children of the future."

Dr. C.M. Pierce of Harvard University in a speech to teachers (1973)

The educational extablishment will make sure there'll no lasting effects of patriotism or individualistic thinking.

19 posted on 10/26/2001 9:47:08 PM PDT by KirkandBurke
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Do you really regard left-wing Americans with the same enmity as you regard Osama Bin Laden?
20 posted on 10/26/2001 9:57:34 PM PDT by codeword
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