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Powell Sees 'Gray Areas' in Defining Terrorism
Reuters via The New York Times ^ | October 25, 2001

Posted on 10/25/2001 2:55:48 PM PDT by sarcasm

Filed at 5:01 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State Colin Powell said on Thursday that some groups sometimes described as terrorist might be seeking to redress grievances, gain rights or achieve freedom from oppressors.

In language that contrasts strongly with the Bush administration's previous rhetoric on terrorism, he said that not every case would be ``black and white'' and that there would be ``gray areas'' that might need to be treated politically.

Speaking to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Powell said the al Qaeda organization led by Osama bin Laden was one clear case of a terrorist group against which it would not be difficult to sustain an international alliance.

The leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombiaand the Real Irish Republican Army in Northern Ireland ''probably meet a similar standard'', he added.

``But then you start to run into areas where one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and that's where you have to apply judgement,'' he added.

To test whether groups qualify as targets against which the United States could sustain an alliance, one would have to ask whether they have a better way to ``express grievances'', ``change the political problem'' and ``gain your rights'', Powell said.

``These are difficult calls to make... You can be quite challenged in explaining these differences with respect to the Middle East,'' he added.

The United States usually resists any attempt to draw distinctions between the groups on the State Department's list of ``foreign terrorist organizations'', which includes the FARC, the Real IRA and an array of Middle Eastern groups.

President Bush, in his rallying cry to the nation on Sept. 20, said: ``Every nation ... now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.''

SUGGESTS FLEXIBILITY ON MIDDLE EAST

Powell and other U.S. officials have said repeatedly that countries cannot pick the ``terrorist'' groups they like and dislike -- a rebuke to countries such as Iran and Syria, which dispute the U.S. definition of terrorism.

Iran, Syria and many other Arabs say that Lebanese and Palestinian groups which Washington calls terrorist are fighting a legitimate struggle against Israeli occupation.

Powell's remarks on Thursday suggested some U.S. flexibility on the subject, especially when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The United States is trying to discourage comparisons between its war on Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and Israel's use of force against the Palestinians, on the grounds that in the Middle East a political process is possible.

Powell said: ``We can use this coalition to go after the clear cases of terrorism and then to start to explore the gray areas where there have been longstanding differences that have not yet been resolved.''

``It's going to take the kind of patience and diligence that gave us the breakthrough... in Northern Ireland, where two groups fighting all these years finally realized that this wasn't going to do it.''

The Irish Republican Army began to disarm on Tuesday, marking a historic breakthrough in the long and bloody conflict between Irish nationalists and pro-British loyalists in Northern Ireland. The Real IRA is a splinter extremist group which opposes the IRA's cease-fire.

``We're just going to have to persuade everybody to stick to it and continue to make distinctions between that which is legitimate protest and legitimate movement toward freedom against an oppressor and that which simply doesn't meet that standard. But there are not going to be black and white rules in every instance,'' Powell said.


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1 posted on 10/25/2001 2:55:49 PM PDT by sarcasm
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To: vedicstar
Every time he opens his mouth, he somehow contradicts his boss. Is this guy related to Neville Chamberlain?
3 posted on 10/25/2001 3:03:36 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: sarcasm; JMJ333
 Secretary of State Colin Powell said on Thursday that some groups sometimes described as
terrorist might be seeking to redress grievances, gain rights or achieve freedom from oppressors.

Well, here you have it, folk.  Our own government
has stepped into moral equivalency.

terrorist = freedom fighter

Never mind that terrorism is guerilla warfare
against innocent civilians so as to defeat an
enemy through fear, and freedom fighters fight
the state to throw off oppression.

It's all the same.




 

4 posted on 10/25/2001 3:04:19 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: vedicstar
I guess (thanks to Powell) we can reclassify the Taliban as freedom fighters. My God what insanity.

That's what the distortive writer of the article wanted you to think. You fell for it.

Played you good.

5 posted on 10/25/2001 3:05:05 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: sarcasm
What a PC fool. He has a future at Reuters ("one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter) after he leaves SOS--hopefully that future comes very, very soon.
6 posted on 10/25/2001 3:05:52 PM PDT by financeprof
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To: sarcasm
Big mistake. "Legitimate protest" never involves killing people. That's the difference.
7 posted on 10/25/2001 3:06:14 PM PDT by livius
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To: vedicstar
To some degree I see a Reuters spin on this. They "don't call them terrorists" and they appear sickeningly anti-Israel.
8 posted on 10/25/2001 3:11:05 PM PDT by veronica
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To: sarcasm
Secretary of State Rodney King strikes again. Hey GW! Ask Jimmy Carter about Andrew Young.
9 posted on 10/25/2001 3:11:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: sarcasm
Anybody who says affirmative action is not destructive should take a close look at Powell. He is a total idiot!
11 posted on 10/25/2001 3:17:15 PM PDT by LarryM
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To: sarcasm
Powell may be seeing grey where the slaughter of innocents are involved, rightous people everywhere are seeing RED!
12 posted on 10/25/2001 3:18:06 PM PDT by hsszionist
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To: sarcasm
In the end, that is the problem with Powell. He sees gray areas everywhere. Little is certain in his world. I had my doubts about him as SoS. Those doubts have been removed.
14 posted on 10/25/2001 3:20:28 PM PDT by Movemout
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To: vedicstar
Stop blaming everything on the press

No.

I did not blame the press. I blamed you for your own stupidity.

Your response is another example of the same.

You understand?

15 posted on 10/25/2001 3:20:53 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: vedicstar
Of course Reuters will put a spin on an article. However, is short sighted for conservatives to blame everything on the press...

I could not agree with you more. And your other post too.

16 posted on 10/25/2001 3:23:03 PM PDT by veronica
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To: sarcasm
Powell's grey areas are due to his lack of grey matter. /p
17 posted on 10/25/2001 3:30:31 PM PDT by RCCFighter
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To: sarcasm
Powell's grey areas are due to his lack of grey matter.
18 posted on 10/25/2001 3:30:53 PM PDT by RCCFighter
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To: sarcasm
Actually you could spin this article the other way..."NO GREY AREA WHEN IT COMES TO BIN LADEN." Powell refuses to see grey in al Qaeda! When you look back over this article calmly, you notice that Powell is actually correct in his observations. There are some people in the world who are not "terrorists" as in bin Laden. There are some groups that the Israelis have badly mistreated who have fought back. That's a true grey area. Nothing wrong with saying so. The real problem with this article is that it seeks to create a false contradiction between Bush and Powell. The media will do this forever. Don't worry about it.
19 posted on 10/25/2001 3:33:02 PM PDT by Vinomori
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To: sarcasm
He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. Who defines what a terrorist is and isn't. What BS. I don't think the president will have such difficulty in deciding right and wrong. Powell sounds more and more like he may be an administration too late.
20 posted on 10/25/2001 3:33:42 PM PDT by paul51
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