Posted on 10/23/2001 1:51:57 PM PDT by watsonfellow
First of all, to prevent the flamings, I should say that I am a strong conservative, and my number one issue is the life issue and so I am not at all a supporter of the Clintons etc.
That being said, I thought it the height of rudeness for these firemen and policemen to boo and yell at the Senator this weekend. It lacked dignity and class. I thought we conservatives were supposed to stand for such things, or perhaps this is just what we say, but do not practice.
I wonder what Burke et al would have said about this conservative embrace of very questionable manners.
The policemen and firemen should have just done nothing when she appeared on stage, no clapping, no booing, the silence would have expressed the same thing, but in a much more dignified way.
Firemen and policemen are searching through rubble collecting pieces of people that are dead and decaying and your worried about rudness. Firemen and police rushed up those buildings to save people, such as yourself, only to sacrifice themselves and the lives of their families and children...and your worried about rudeness.
I don't get it....especially for the likes of the godless and humanist Hillary Xlinton. You know...Satan is a humanist....as we reject him should we do it politily too?
Thanks. Sounds good to me, too.
Yet, still, not withering enough. If the lad wants to really be a conservative this pencil-necked geek attitude needs running through the wringer with maximum gusto!
Edmund, not only would have expressed himself, he would have written a lengthy book on why she deserved it.If it should still be asked why we show sufficient acrimony to exact a suspicion of being in any manner influenced by malice or a desire of revenge, to this, my Lords, I answer, because we should be thought to know our duty, and to have all the world know how resolutely we are resolved to perform it. The Commons of Great Britain are not disposed to quarrel with the Divine Wisdom and Goodness, which has moulded up revenge into the frame and constitution of man. He that has made us what we are has made us at once resentful and reasonable. Instinct tells a man that he ought to revenge an injury; reason tells him that he ought not be a judge in his own cause. From that moment revenge passes from the public to the private hand; but in being transferred it is far from being extinguished. My Lords, it is transferred as a sacred trust to be exercised for the injured, in measure and proportion, by persons, who feeling as he feels, are in a temper to reason better than he can reason. Revenge is taken out of the hands of the original injured proprietor, lest it should be carried beyond the bounds of moderation and justice. But, my Lords, it is in its transfer exposed to a danger of an opposite description. The delegate of vengeance may not feel the wrong sufficiently: He may be cold and languid in the performance of his sacred duty. It is for these reasons that good men are taught to tremble even at the first emotions of anger and resentment for their own particular wrongs; but they are likewise taught, if they are well taught, to give the loosest possible rein to their resentment and indignation, whenever their parents, their friends, their country, or their brethren of the common family of mankind are injured. Those who have not such feelings, under such circumstances, are base and degenerate. These, my Lords, are the sentiments of the Commons of Great Britain.
Lord Bacon has very well said, that "revenge is a kind of wild justice." It is so, and without this wild austere stock there would be no justice in the world. But when, by the skilful hand of morality and wise jurisprudence, a foreign scion, but of the very same species, is grafted upon it, its harsh quality becomes changed, it submits to culture, and, laying aside its savage nature, it bears fruits and flowers, sweet to the world, and not ungrateful even to heaven itself, to which it elevates its exalted head. The fruit of this wild stock is revenge regulated, but not extinguished, -- revenge transferred from the suffering party to the communion and sympathy of mankind. This is the revenge by which we are actuated, and which we should be sorry, if the false, idle, girlish, novel-like morality of the world should extinguish in the breast of us who have a great public duty to perform.
This sympathetic revenge, which is condemned by clamorous imbecility, is so far from being a vice, that it is the greatest of all possible virtues, -- a virtue which the uncorrupted judgement of mankind has in all ages exalted to the rank of heroism. To give up all the repose and pleasures of life, to pass sleepless nights and laborious days, and, what is ten times more irksome to an ingenuous mind, to offer oneself to calumny and all its herd of hissing tongues and poison fangs, in order to free the world from fraudulent prevaricators, from cruel oppressors, from robbers and tyrants, has, I say, the test of heroic virtue, and well deserves such a distinction. The Commons despairing to attain the heights of this virtue, never lose sight of it for a moment. For seventeen years they have, almost without intermission, pursued, by every sort of inquiry, by legislative and by judicial remedy, the cure of this...malady, worse ten thousand times than the leprosy which our forefathers brought from the east. Could they have done this, if they had not been actuated by some strong, some vehement, some perennial passion, which, burning like the Vestal fire chaste and eternal, never suffers generous sympathy to grow cold in maintaining the rights of the injured or in denouncing the crimes of the oppressor?
My Lords, the Managers for the Commons have been actuated by this passion; my Lords, they feel its influence at this moment; and so far from softening either their measures or their tone, they do here, in the presence of their Creator, of this House, and of the world, make this solemn declaration, and nuncupate this deliberate vow: that they will ever flow with the most determined and unextinguishable animosity against tyranny, oppression, and perculation in all, but more particularly as practiced by this man...; that they never will relent, but will pursue and prosecute him and it, till they see corrupt pride prostrate under the feet of justice. We call upon your Lordships to join us; and we have no doubt that you will feel the same sympathy that we feel, or (what I cannot persuade my soul to think or my mouth to utter) you will be identified with the criminal whose crimes you excuse, and rolled with him in all the pollution of ...[this] guilt from generation to generation. Let those who feel with me upon this occasion join with me in this vow: if they will not, I have it all to myself.
Two questions: What does that Latin phrase mean? (yeah, I could look it up myself, but I'm lazy. :)
Has anyone ever witnessed anyone throwing rotten vegetables at a speaker? (other than in a Bugs Bunny cartoon, that is!)
We need to give back what we have been getting for the past 8 years!!! I've heard enough about the VRWM to make me very comfortable about showing them who WE are - and we're PROUD OF IT!!!!
And you're full of sh*t.
Too late pal.
Everything that woman does is political -- everything.
; but they are likewise taught, if they are well taught, to give the loosest possible rein to their resentment and indignation, whenever their parents, their friends, their country, or their brethren of the common family of mankind are injured. Those who have not such feelings, under such circumstances, are base and degenerate. These, my Lords, are the sentiments of the Commons of Great Britain.Civility should have been first displayed by the crass politician affording herself a display in a tribute to heroes.
OH YEAH......WHEN??????
When he was giving his 'State of the Union' speech, and she kept rolling her eyes, talking & making ugly faces??????
Or grandstanding any & every chance she gets....
..or...or
Second, HILLARY needs to know that people don't like her. When she is controlled by her "handlers," it reinforces the notion that she is royalty. One of the reasons she was able to get away with what she did is that she never had to confront critics.
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