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McVeigh's Ghost - Top Pentagon Officials Say Iraq Involved in OKC Bombing
US News & World Report/ Fox & Friends ^ | October 23, 2001 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 10/23/2001 12:17:44 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner

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To: Black Jade,rit,golitely,Wallaby,Uncle Bill,ChaseR,Chapita,BlueDogDemo,roughrider,LSJohn,Judge Par
Black Jade wrote in reply #461:

"If your reason for going to war with Saddam is that he has WMD & he aids terrorism, then do you also want to bomb Iran, Russia, China, and even our own country"

That is a big "IF" you raised.

If you recall, I asked you for YOUR solution (not your guess at what my solution might be-very good attempt to divert on your part but no cigar, sorry) for Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction and I have not found that you have given an answer to my question.

I do not say that Iraq would,could or should be taken out by bombing although that is an option along with many other options . What are your options? Do nothing about Iraq or do something about Iraq? What should be done about Iraq and how??

462 posted on 12/15/2001 9:53:26 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Black Jade,golitely,rit,Uncle BIll,Wallaby,Fred Mertz,Plummz
Iraq is directly helping ALQaeda and AlQaeda is direcly working with Iraq inspite of the connections to Iran that you refer to.

In fact Iran and Iraq collborated on the OKC bombing (you will see the proof of this next year).

And Iraqi and Iranian representatives also cooperated closely when they met together in Lebanon and in Tehrhan in April and then July 2001 with AlQaeda and Hamas and Hezbolah and Islamic Jihad and with Abu Nidal. They all publicly pledged to support each other and combine operations worldwide.

464 posted on 12/15/2001 11:47:14 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Uncle Bill,LSJohn,BlueDogDemo
Please see reply #464 and #463.
465 posted on 12/15/2001 11:50:02 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Black Jade; OKCSubmariner
Those Iraqis in Oklahoma were defectors, they were at war with Saddam. That's why Bush, senior & Clinton brought them to OKC & Lincoln.

Thre's no reason to think a number weren't double agents. As much as Saddam may have been happy to help blow up some buildings, it seems clear to me that there were/are domestic elements that allowed/helped OKC (And maybe WTC) to happen. That is the cancer that needs to be dealt with first and foremost, before any new offensive against Iraq.

468 posted on 12/16/2001 8:25:40 AM PST by Plummz
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To: Black Jade; golitely; OKCsubmariner; Plummz
to be continued?
469 posted on 12/16/2001 9:07:12 AM PST by thinden
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To: Black Jade
After the Gulf War, we had a lot of prisoners of war that were in camps in Saudi Arabia. These were not people who had fled Iraq because they did not like Saddam. These were members of the military including the Republican Guard who had been captured during the war. We agreed to relocate many of these people to the U.S. Some of them conveniently claimed that if they went back to Iraq, Saddam would kill them. There may have been some truth to that but only because they had allowed themselves to be taken as prisoners, (not because they had fled from Saddam). The majority of these people would have an intense hatred for the United States after we came after their country militarily. Our government thought that they would come over here and just fall in love with freedom and our way of life and turn out to be model, law-abiding citizens. We in Oklahoma City know better than that. We have what our police call the Iraqi Mafia in Oklahoma City.
471 posted on 12/17/2001 11:38:01 AM PST by Nancie Drew
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To: Black Jade; OKCSubmariner
A bmp.
473 posted on 02/17/2002 5:56:33 AM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Ling Ting Tong
You may very well be right.

Welcome to FreeRepublic!

475 posted on 02/17/2002 11:20:40 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Black Jade,archy,golitely,Uncle Bill,thinden,aristeides,ratcat,rdavis84,honway,Plummz,Wallaby,Tra
Black Jade in reply #476 wrote:

"McVeigh being an agent of Saddam is obviously a hoax.

Even if it should turn out that McVeigh did not work for Iraq it is not obvious that it is a hoax at this time unless Black Jade knows something many other's do not that Black Jade has not revealed to us yet as proof.

I have not ruled out the possibility that McVeigh did work for Iraq.

The man seen with McVeigh before and at the bomb scene was an Iraqi, Al Hussain Hussaini. McVeigh's associate from Elohim City, Dennis Mahon (who also was a friend of Andreas Strassmeyer) was paid monthy by the Iraqi government at least up until the time of the OKC bombing. This is a matter of court records and is also in defense attorney Stephen Jones book and in New AMerican Articles by William Jasper.

McVeigh wrote several letters to the OKlahoma Gazette criticized the US for the deaths of children he says were killed in Iraq by US actions. McVeigh also complained about the deaths of children in Iraq he attributed to the US during his 60 minutes interview.

McVeigh friend and associate Gary D. Hunt also attributed ( in radio broadcasts and in an email he sent out to his Waco friends a day after the bombing-in the hands of state and Fed law enforcement-I gave a copy to them) the OKC bombing to a protest by McVeigh of the deaths of children at the hands of the US gov not only at Waco but also in Iraq.

477 posted on 02/23/2002 9:08:13 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner, Black Jade
See post #76.
478 posted on 02/23/2002 9:54:26 PM PST by A6M3
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To: OKCSubmariner
Andreas Strassmeir - PzGren(SPz)

I spoke directly by phone with Paul Bedard on 10/23/2001 and he gave me permission to write that the top official at the Pentagon who is making the allegations about McVeigh connections to Iraq is the Assistant Secretary of Defense, Mr. Wolfowitz, the number two man at the Pentagon under the Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Mr. Bedard also broke his information on 10/23/2001 at 6:20 am EST on the show "Fox and Friends".

Note that the news item refers to a coverup of the Iraqi connection to McVeigh and the OKC bombing suspected by Pentagon officials. The coverup referred to is a coverup by the FBI, DOJ, and Reno and Freeh.

Bedard's information is consistent with evidence uncovered that had McVeigh meeting with an Iraqi recruiter in Las Vegas a few months before the OKC bombing along with a suspected Hamas cell member from OKC. McVeigh was seen with the employee of the Hamas cell member, an Iraqi, Al Hussain Hussaini in OKC before and on the morning of the OKC bombing. Hussaini was seen speeding away in front of the Murrah building with another ME man in a late model brown Chevy truck, the subject of an FBI all points bulletin.

Hussaini served in Sadam Hussein's Republican Guard prior to the Gulf War and was brought to the US by Clinton along with around 4000 Iraqis after the gulf War. Some were relocated in OKC at two churches in OKC. This information was provided by me to KFORTV (Brad Edwards) in OKC in May 1995 when they were investigating Hussaini's role.

Former legal counsel for the impeachment proceedings and prominent DOJ attorney, David Schippers has said several times on Alex Jones and other radio broadcasts that Hussaini was a baggage handler at Boston's Logan airport at the time of the WTC attacks on 9/11/2001. Schippers expressed concern that the FBI should look into whether or not Hussaini could have helped breach security at the airport to help the hijacker pilots get on board or to plant box cutter knives.

Also it is believed Terry Nichols met with Bin Laden operatives of the Abu Sayef terror organization in the Phillipines months before the OKC bombing. Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein have worked closely with each other on terror projects for years. Wolfowitz and Admiral Woolsey (former CIA and FBI director) think Sadam Hussain and Bin Laden also worked together on the Pentagon and WTC attacks on 9/11/2001.

Vincent Cannistraro, former head of the CIA's ME counter terror operations, told the FBI in April 1995 that the OKC bombing was a Sadam Hussein operation where Sadam Hussein had paid seven Pakistanis to assist in the operation. Canistraro's source was the head of Saudi intelligence and the FBI interview with Cannistraro is described in McVeigh defense attorney Stephen Jones' book and David Hoffman's book.

Three Pakistani men were arrested in OKC and Dallas in connection to the OKC bombing and then released. One of them Asad Sidiqy was a suspect in the first WTC bombing backed by Sadam Hussein in 1993. The FBI and Reno covered up the FBI 302 interview reports and arrests of these three Pakistanis.
28 posted on 10/24/01 9:33 AM Pacific by OKCSubmariner

479 posted on 02/23/2002 9:59:25 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the ping. Please keep me informed. Thanks.
480 posted on 02/24/2002 2:08:08 AM PST by knighthawk
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