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1 posted on 10/23/2001 8:48:28 AM PDT by sendtoscott
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"Both the House and the Senate bills grant vast powers to law enforcement that have nothing to do with counter-terrorism."

Any body getting the Drift out there?

2 posted on 10/23/2001 8:55:20 AM PDT by rdavis84
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There were many here who were UPSET that this anti-liberty bill wasn't passed sooner.
3 posted on 10/23/2001 9:06:14 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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Will the War Kill the Bill of Rights?

Only if we allow it.
And definitely not necessary.

We just need to establish that it applies only to citizens who did not become so fraudulently (by swearing a false oath).
And any children of "false" citizens born here similarly are aliens.

The Bill of Rights should not protect foreign diplomatic personnel, tourists, students, people in transit or illegals.

4 posted on 10/23/2001 9:07:58 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: sendtoscott
The Senate bill allows the government to conduct secret searches. This measure is not limited to terrorism cases. Rather, it would apply to federal government searches involving drugs, pornography, gambling, and everything else in the federal criminal code.

This is the time bomb in the current legislation. Passed ostensibly for terrorism, eventually used for everything under the sun.

When you read "... and for other purposes ..." in legislation, beware. This overlooked little phrase explains how legislation passed supposedly for purpose A, eventually gets used for purpose B, C, D, E, ... X, Y, Z.

It is the sleight-of-hand magician's trick that has fooled lawmakers and the populace for decades.

While the solid majority of federal law enforcement agents are honorable, some are not.

... and their bosses are more corrupt. Those who make the policies agents follow are the real criminals.

8 posted on 10/23/2001 9:34:36 AM PDT by gpk9
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To: sendtoscott
No.
34 posted on 10/23/2001 11:22:53 AM PDT by Petronski
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