Islam's God: The Origin of Allah the Moon God

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[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

It is very clear (to all but the most delusional of observers)

Offering the delusion of dissidents as proof of the veracity of one's claims is no proof. One could say it is even less a point and more a refutation of itself... What do I offer as proof of my claims? Your question would probably be. Well, if taken literally, your statement would imply that only the most delusional would disagree with you, thereby leaving the merely delusional in complete agreement. Are you saying that people who see things the way you do are delusional? I really don't think you meant that, which demonstrates you aren't really thinking while you type, just spewing. Try again.

[spycatcher]

You might be better off if you feared him more then ;)

Notice he doesn't condone us slaughtering all the sinners ourselves like Allah does. He alone makes the judgement of when the sinner is beyond his grace. And that table is from the posted article not from my beliefs.

[spycatcher]

Funny post!

Hey what it if the Amish had a violent mafia wing whose goal was to eliminate all technology?? Now that would be scary -- bin Laden would even have to watch out! ;)

But alas, they're a peaceful people and America loves em. Now, back to my sourdough pretzels.

[AmishDude]

Stay tuned. I'm sure there's more to come. The only problem with this format is that you can't see people's faces as they read your post. ;)

[Freebird Forever]

Just as those of the Islamic faith would assert that there would be more worship of Allah, had the crusaders not come.

I never attempted to justify the crusades. Guess it's easier for you to put up a false argument when you can't refute a point.

Let's try it again. If Christians were allowed to legally proselytize in islamic occupied lands, initially, more people would be given the opportunity to exercise God-given free will , and ultimately, fewer people would be born into islam (read: satanic deception).

Looks like some (little g) god is afraid of the competition.

Therefore I assert that islamic religious beliefs are not as you suggest just "a geographic or familial accident", but is in reality, brainwashing by a psychotic demon.

[discontinue]

Why would anyone of sound mind seek to deny this?

OWK, you make a valid point; however, that certainly doesn't make Christianity the wrong one, does it? Wouldn't you agree that's is certainly possible that we will ultimately be judged by a soveriegn God? Whether or not I/you want to acknowledge it....it is possible, is it not? regardless of history's ebb and flow...or where we were born, etc

[BibChr]

Works for me!

[OWK]

How arrogant of you it is to claim that others could not rise above the accident of their birth to embrace a greater truth, when somehow you managed to rise above your childhood to indulge in a delusion.

I did not suggest that others cannot and do not manage to overcome the religious indoctrination of their youth, On they contrary. I stated quite clearly that there are certainly exceptions.

My point was simply that the religious indoctrintation of one's youth, overwhelmingly determines the religious faith of one's adulthood.

This simple truth sure seems to make some people uneasy.

Very peculiar.

[nmh]

#2, the Judeo Christian God is not the "moon god". Geesh, when someone presents the facts you still come up short on the ability to perform even the most basic deductive reasoning. The fact is you don't wish to believe in any god hence the silly commentary. Ignorance must be bliss ... .

[OWK]

OWK, you make a valid point; however, that certainly doesn't make Christianity the wrong one, does it?

I didn't suggest that it did.

I simply suggested that as a rule, people are Christian because that is the faith they were indoctrinated into as children, and that as a rule, people are Islamic because that is the faith they are indoctrinated into as children.

A relatively simple point which others seem unwilling to accept.

[OWK]

#2, the Judeo Christian God is not the "moon god". Geesh, when someone presents the facts you still come up short on the ability to perform even the most basic deductive reasoning. The fact is you don't wish to believe in any god hence the silly commentary. Ignorance must be bliss ... .

You seem to be suffering some kind of cognitive disfunction.

At no time did I suggest that the Judeo-Christian god was "the moon god".

[OWK]

BTW, OWK, I'm not the least interested in your opinion...

And this should be of significance to me because...?

[juliabrock]

So Islam has its roots in early paganistic religions, right? Hate to burst your bubble, but so does Judaism - study up on Adam's "first wife", Lilith. And Christianity - ask yourself the origins of Christmas (not Christ's birthday) or Easter. I hate that so many people seem willing to jump on the idea that this is some kind of Christian crusade.

[discontinue]

perhaps then I over-inferred; but the implication seemed to be that because of certain factors(birthplace, etc) are present in all cultures, religions that they then reside on an even plane. I would submit that it's possible one is indeed the "right" religion and as such it does hold ultimate truth whether or not it is embraced by you/me etc.

[OWK]

Therefore I assert that islamic religious beliefs are not as you suggest just "a geographic or familial accident", but is in reality, brainwashing by a psychotic demon.

This is the kind of silliness that makes it tough to take you folks seriously.

[headsonpikes]

Just think what a great debt we owe to Henry VIII, who in pursuit of his whims and appetites, fortuitously freed one kingdom from the tyranny of 'mullahs'.

Doing the Lord's work is thankless, eh, OWK? LOL!

You certainly earn points for patience; you've certainly got more than I do, I can tell you that!

[OWK]

perhaps then I over-inferred; but the implication seemed to be that because of certain factors(birthplace, etc) are present in all cultures, religions that they then reside on an even plane. I would submit that it's possible one is indeed the "right" religion and as such it does hold ultimate truth whether or not it is embraced by you/me etc.

And my ultimate point was, that each and every religious community is convinced that their faith represents the truth. And each is equally convinced that all others are false. And that each is comprised of individuals who (by an overwhelming majority) acquired their faith as a consequence of the indoctrination they recieved in their youth.

And that the odds are that any member of a given religious community, would be every bit as convinced of the "truth" of a faith he now recognizes as false, if that had been the faith he was indoctrinated into as a child.

My comments have nothing to do with the objective truth or falsehood of any of these faiths. Simply an observation.

[stuartcr]

Pre-everybodies religion was that of superstition, big deal. The author fails to indicate that when Muhhammed defeated the Meccans (around 630), he destroyed tthat cities idols. Not unlike Moses coming down from the mountains, or Jesus at the temple.It would seem that God's prophets have some similar tactics.

[artios]

When pagans and unbelievers tell me what the Bible or what Christianity is - it is always amusing. I suspect that when we "infidels" tell each other what Islam is - it is similiar. My opinion is that whatever Islam is - I don't care. What I do care is that every muslim/Islam government now and through history has been an oppressive tyranny with a chief aim to kill jews and christian "infidels" the moment they have a half a chance. Tray Sudan, Saudi, Afghanistan etc etc etc. There has been no reformation in muslim theology. They are mostly insane killers. There may be 30% of pakistanis that don't want us dead, and there may be 20% of muslims world wide that don't want us dead - but the majority that do are an obvious clear and present danger. regardless of their religion - you know them by the fruits.