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Why Do They Want to Kill Us?
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| October 21, 2001
| Jacob G. Hornberger
Posted on 10/22/2001 3:29:25 AM PDT by Ada Coddington
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posted on
10/22/2001 3:29:25 AM PDT
by
Ada Coddington
(ACoddington@Compuserve.com)
To: Ada Coddington
don't forget reason number 4: that Osama wants to bring back the caliphate and have islamic rule over the entire world. Should we "reevaluate" our beliefs and convert to Islam? I say to hell with that
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posted on
10/22/2001 3:41:21 AM PDT
by
arielb
To: Ada Coddington
This is a clever little piece of defeatist drivel, but it is worth examing the technique involved herein. The article purports to ask the question "Why the hatred?" and then immediately leaps to a very different why--that is, in the face of the senseless attack, why not just listen to everything Bin hidin says are his gripes, and appease appease appease.
I believe it is important to listen to garbage bin. Listen carefully. For the first time, and only after the attack, he pronounces that the PA is now a big deal for him. He is also bothered by the fact that we dropped two atom bombs 55 years ago to end WW II. So Neville the author isn't really paraphrasing Binny's gripes accurately. The truth is there isn't any amount of appeasement we could offer that would do anything other than encourage these thugs. And they are thugs, not reasoning civilized human beings. Civilized human beings don't fly planes in to other people and hope to kill tens of thousands and settle for over 13,000 casualties.
So the article doesn't just ask "why". It also asks "Why not appease?" "Why didn't Guiliani take the money?" "Why don't we apologize to not Bin Ladelately?"
You sniveling wuss. Why not drop dead?
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posted on
10/22/2001 3:43:44 AM PDT
by
at bay
To: Ada Coddington
Can't we just have a big group hug? NO capitulation to thug scumbag terrorists!!!
To: Ada Coddington
Bin Laden wants power and he is relying on the powers and gods of violence to do that, much like the Greeks would do in the antiquity. Bin Laden has been kicked out of Saudi Arabia while the US was invited there, something he will never forget. His only desperate mean to restore this "unjustice" is by pausing as a prophet and super star of the arab world. Since the arab world is similarly hateful of psychological weakness and relies on the usage of violence to attain its ends, we have a collusion going on.
Last but not least, Bin Laden wants to kill "me" because I am letting him kill "me" through "my" peace processes, leftist psychobables of hatred and finding out why while under attack, and appeasement movements.
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posted on
10/22/2001 3:44:06 AM PDT
by
lavaroise
To: Ada Coddington
Another it's America's fault!
To: Ada Coddington
Why Do They Want to Kill Us?It doesn't really matter why.
They've already killed close to 10,000 of us. What matters now is that we kill enough of them that there won't be enough left to kill any more of us.
PS: Can you imagine a Patton or MacArthur or Schwartzkopf or Nimitz asking such an idiotic question?
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posted on
10/22/2001 3:47:31 AM PDT
by
ppaul
To: Ada Coddington
Why Do They Want to Kill Us?Because we are alive and free. They want us to submit or die. Submission is the way of Islam. Americans prefer their liberty.
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posted on
10/22/2001 3:51:28 AM PDT
by
atafak
To: atafak
Because we are alive and free. They want us to submit or die. Submission is the way of Islam. Americans prefer their libertyI sincerely doubt that. Besides we are not particularly free.
To: arielb
don't forget reason number 4: that Osama wants to bring back the caliphate and have islamic rule over the entire world. Should we "reevaluate" our beliefs and convert to Islam? I say to hell with thatIzzat so?
To: Ada Coddington
Because we are alive and free. They want us to submit or die. Submission is the way of Islam. Americans prefer their liberty I sincerely doubt that. Besides we are not particularly free. Then why not join up with Binny and get the hell out of this country you ungrateful traitor.
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posted on
10/22/2001 4:01:46 AM PDT
by
at bay
To: Ada Coddington
What would be the downside to immediately pulling U.S. troops out of Saudi Arabia? What? Surrender?
Here's some more intellectual fodder for the author:
1) What if, no matter what we do, they continue with their behavior?
2) What if the real culprit is an angry Saddam?
3) What if we kill them all and take over their governments?
To: Ada Coddington
The "why" is irrelevant to me.
Anyone who tries to kill me or mine will be met with relentless and merciless force.
End of discussion.
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posted on
10/22/2001 4:09:56 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: Ada Coddington
Are the troops really based on Islamic holy lands, and is that really an important religious issue for Muslims?Anyone who doesn't know the answer to these two questions really shouldn't be writing about the Middle East. All of Saudi Arabia -- the birthplace of Islam -- is holy to Muslims. It also contains their two holiest cities, Mecca and Medina.
America's Fifth Column ... watch JIHAD! In America -- here
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posted on
10/22/2001 4:12:42 AM PDT
by
JCG
To: Ada Coddington
"What would be wrong with a reevaluation of the U.S. government's Middle East policy, even while efforts are being made to bring the people who committed the September 11 attacks to justice? Couldn't this result in a better direction for our country -- one that might also alter the mindset and behavior of people who want to kill us?"That's where I stopped and knowing this place (FR that is) I doubt I'll need to explain why.
God bless
To: lavaroise
Has anyone considered the possibility that bin Laden and his followers are just serial killers with no agenda other than to inflict suffering and pain on others? Watching bin Laden film clips leaves me with the distinct impression that bin Laden enjoys killing others and will go to any length to justify his murderous activities.
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posted on
10/22/2001 4:21:46 AM PDT
by
monocle
To: monocle
It definitely is true. Those wielding the powers of evil ultimately find simple enjoyment at killing, as the drug cartels have proven that they now are more addicted to killing than to the money they make with drugs.
To: JCG
"All of Saudi Arabia -- the birthplace of Islam -- is holy to Muslims. It also contains their two holiest cities, Mecca and Medina. "
Let's kick all Muslims out of Israel. It is holy to Christians and Jews.
Let's kick all Muslims out of the USA, it is holy to me.
Duh!
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posted on
10/22/2001 4:42:59 AM PDT
by
XBob
To: Ada Coddington
(1) The stationing of U.S. military personnel in Saudi Arabia, which they say encompasses the Islamic holy cities of Mecca and Medina;
In other words, bin Laden believes Americans are so unclean that our very presence in his country is a sacrilege. Should we give ten seconds' consideration to such an ignorant bigot?
(2) The 10-year embargo against Iraq, which, it is reported, has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children;
Iraqi children are dying because the West won't feed them? Can they not feed themselves? Why not? Has their leader built any new palaces, bought any new weapons in the last ten years?
(3) U.S. economic and military aid to Israel.
Let's be clear about this: time and again, Arabic spokesman have said that creating a Palestinian state is not enough. The very existence of Israel is not to be tolerated. Everybody okay with that?
To: monocle
My my, what erudite commentary. I hope that Bin Ladin does not hate potato chip munching, TV obsessed, pasty skinned blimpos who failed highschool math but can quote batting stats endlessly.There would be no end to the ' War on Terrorism'. Monocle, I suspect that you are not as dumb as what you wrote. Why can't anyone on this post write/think along the lines of this post and not be met with reasoned counter-points? Why is it always a poorly reasoned slur?
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posted on
10/22/2001 5:22:19 AM PDT
by
Clint_E
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