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Here is the short article from yesterday in which Sullivan lambasted Talbot for his sycophantic suck-up to Susan "I don't REALLY hate America!" Sontag.

This is one of the saddest rants I have ever read in any supposedly "respectable" publication. It is so blatantly obvious that Talbot is merely using his position as head of Salon to launch a purely personal attack, for no other reason than that someone publicly called him on the carpet for his pathetic example of giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

And notice how, all of a sudden, it IS just about sex? Now that Talbot has brought up Sullivan's bareback fun (which has nothing at all to do with the charges against Talbot), neither Talbot nor anybody else as Salon can EVER AGAIN try to make that false claim about the right only being obsessed with Clinton's sex life. Every time they do, we can throw this right back into their faces.

1 posted on 10/20/2001 2:44:14 PM PDT by Timesink
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Sorry about all the dead links in the cut-and-pasted article. They all worked on the preview page!
2 posted on 10/20/2001 2:45:33 PM PDT by Timesink
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On his Web site, he does not just engage antiwar writer Katha Pollitt, whose tortured ruminations in the Nation on whether to fly a flag from her New York apartment window were admittedly neurotic and absurd. He seeks to obliterate her, gloating after a lopsided debate with her on public radio that "I took no prisoners." In the church of Sullivan, those who criticize or express ambivalence about the bombing of Afghanistan are not just wrong -- they are corrupt souls who must be excommunicated from the American congregation.

"Well, Your Stammering is Eloquent" (Andrew Sullivan makes a fool of Katha Pollit on NPR)

Radio Smackdown! Andrew Sullivan wipes floor with Katha Pollitt

Sullivan asks Pollit what the US should do, she keeps avoiding the issue, and criticizing US policy, and blah blah blah, but she won't say what the US should do. He keeps asking her, and finally she answers him that she hasn't thought it through yet. And then he says, "if you haven't thought it through by now" (or something to that effect). It was so damn funny! Remember, this interview was over a MONTH after the WTC attacks, and Pollit is claiming she hasn't thought through what the US should do... she's empty, she has no real ideas.

Sullivan was tough, he was almost a bully. But he was right, sometimes you have to push people to get answers from them.

3 posted on 10/20/2001 2:52:49 PM PDT by xm177e2
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Looks like Andrew finally got to them. :o)

Good going Andrew, you know you're ahead of the pack when they spend all their time trying to stab you in the back.

As to the comment about FreeRepublic, Andrew Sullivan knows he has a lot of friends here.

4 posted on 10/20/2001 2:53:45 PM PDT by McGavin999
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It wasn't FreeRepublic.com that rallied around Sullivan; those conservative "enclaves" are too busy tossing kindling on the pyres to burn the sodomites.

I remember defending Sullivan on FR, and I remember a lot of other people standing up for him here, too.

5 posted on 10/20/2001 2:55:13 PM PDT by xm177e2
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Real deal is that Sullivan has got this twit's number. Said twit (Talbot) gave himself away when he referred to Sontag's writings as *texts*. The word texts is pretentious/ deconsctruto/ liberal university/ New York Review of Books speak
6 posted on 10/20/2001 2:56:10 PM PDT by JJ59
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Sullivan's Taliban style of argument

Apparently, leftists no longer call people who disagree with them "Nazis," having found a new bogeyman.

9 posted on 10/20/2001 2:59:38 PM PDT by mountaineer
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"It wasn't FreeRepublic.com that rallied around Sullivan; those conservative "enclaves" are too busy tossing kindling on the pyres to burn the sodomites. Their latest cause is blasting the Bush administration for apologizing on behalf of the Navy crewmen who painted "hijack this, fags" on missiles headed toward Afghanistan."

ROFL.................as long as you spell the name right, Talbot..:)

11 posted on 10/20/2001 3:04:32 PM PDT by RightOnline
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I honestly didn't know that SALON still existed (seriously). Reading this loathsome piece of flatulent vulture dung from Talbot just reminded me of why I stopped reading it several months ago!
12 posted on 10/20/2001 3:07:55 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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Aren't Talbot and Steve Brill entwined in a death embrace as they go under for the last time?
Someone of Sullivan's intellect needs Salon a LOT less than they need him.
14 posted on 10/20/2001 3:11:51 PM PDT by MamaLucci
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Salon.com

Still, the greatest stock short sale in history. That's about all it was good for. Now please, just go away.
19 posted on 10/20/2001 3:20:17 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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Is David Talbot any relation to Strobe Talbot?

FReegards,

22 posted on 10/20/2001 3:23:10 PM PDT by VMI70
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David Talbot is Salon's founder and editor in chief.

I think that it is more likely that Talbot is a closet homophobe.

32 posted on 10/20/2001 3:39:30 PM PDT by jackbill
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You know Sullivan is dissecting the left when Talbot launches this kind of mean-spirited homophobic attack.
40 posted on 10/20/2001 4:15:55 PM PDT by BillF
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Andrew Sullivan knows that victory in this war will require more than technology and courage. It will require of our nation to reach into its very soul. Our enemies are fortified with evil and it will require a people with a common soul to defeat them. Despite our affluence and excess we still possess such qualities. Maybe Tony Blair can recall in his people the similar qualities that led to the Finest Hour. But perhaps the one people who possess the character and soul to join our crusade, and yes it is a crusade, are the Russians. 70 years of Communism could not extinguish their faith. Western Europe has abandonded the old values for the marketplace. We cannot depend on them, but Russia? We are, I think, a similar people. We who have known the road to freedom all of our existence and they who have barely started the journey. We both know that freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel. I think Andrew Sullivan knows this about us, and only fears our being led astray by those who have sold their liberty for comfort.
49 posted on 10/20/2001 5:12:37 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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"It wasn't FreeRepublic.com that rallied around Sullivan; those conservative "enclaves" are too busy tossing kindling on the pyres to burn the sodomites. Their latest cause is blasting the Bush administration for apologizing on behalf of the Navy crewmen who painted "hijack this, fags" on missiles headed toward Afghanistan."

One paragraph, so many lies and distortions. This liberal mouse has no familiarity whatsoever with Free Republic if he thinks we are monolithic in our thoughts and opinions on any subject. What a maroon....

52 posted on 10/20/2001 5:29:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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"Since the horrors of Sept. 11, however, Sullivan's voice has become a shriek, hitting an ear-piercing decibel that, whether intended or not, drives out the possibility of rational discussion."

This sentence, by the way, was the tipoff about Talbot's problem. See it?
"....drives out the possibility of rational discussion."
See!! There can be no "rational discussion", ie., debate, when it comes to the truth - - that is, the truth is not debatable. This has always been a major frustration for liberals. Liberals always cry "foul" this way when they are confronted with the unblemished truth because the truth is their greatest enemy. They simply have no answer except to whine, wring their hands, and then....lie.

54 posted on 10/20/2001 5:37:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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It is simply false to charge that Free Republic is "busy tossing kindling on the pyres to burn the sodomites." Jim Robinson has discouraged "gay issue" threads for years.

Does Salon have 70,000 regular contributors that it must answer for? Of course not, but David Talbot expects Jim Robinson to answer for all 70,000 of his.

57 posted on 10/20/2001 8:16:03 PM PDT by beckett
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GO ANDREW!!! You obviously hit some sore spots!
58 posted on 10/20/2001 8:21:28 PM PDT by brat
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Message to Talbot: Salon will be dead and buried but freerepublic.com will live on!!!

As for his nutty "Taliban-style argument" claims ... takes one to know one. He is a lefty taliban. Wants to put Sullivan under a blanket, just like Taliban do to women. Apparently we have a free country only for leftie American critics. wrong - Sullivan is calling a spade a spade and anti-Americanism is being called anti-Americanism. Cant stand the heat? get out of the kitchen!

60 posted on 10/20/2001 10:09:40 PM PDT by WOSG
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Sunday bump
61 posted on 10/21/2001 9:00:56 AM PDT by Timesink
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