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A PC Nation Cannot Survive Amoungst A World of Aggressors
Vanity | 10-20-01 | S. Fleming

Posted on 10/20/2001 10:12:17 AM PDT by mercy

Perhaps our nations PC attitudes and actions in this time of war are not what they seem. Maybe our top elected officials (right now I'm not willing to call them leaders) have employed a cover designed to fool the outside world and cover our true objectives. It could be that our actual objective is to buy time while we take control of Afghanistan in order to establish massive forward positions and bases for the 'real war' that is so obviously unavoidable. Islamists world wide are plainly taking over nearly all Muslim countries and World War is their plain objective.

If our present actions ARE disinformation and deceit designed to gain time and position for the necessary massive assaults to come ... I applaud them. I am even willing to absorb the consequences to gain the advantage we must have to fight a war against millions, hundreds of millions, of hostile barbarians now assembling against us and presently prosecuting a terror war possibly to include a war of mass distruction. Those consequences include but are not limited to leaving ourselves open to further massive terror attacks on me and my country. Even if the Islamists (let's no longer call them JUST terrorists) do not have real 'suitcase nukes' they DO have 'dirty nukes'. A dirty nuke is just a bunch of plastique wrapped up in plutonium or other nuclear material. Results equal massive radiation poisoning.

I guess that in order to lull the world, most of which either openly or secretly resents, if not hates us, into momentary inaction our nation is not now taking ordinary common sense actions. Actions like deporting all non citizen Middle Eastern visitors post haste. Not only are we not deporting we are not stopping present infiltration of Islamist terrorists. It looks to me like this is deemed necessary 'for now' by those in control of us for these time buying tactics. I guess our elected officials are afraid that any such common sense actions on our part right now would tip our hand in establishing forward bases in Afghanistan.

OK I can live with this. For a very little while. Even though the chances of the Islamist terrorists killing many MORE thousands of us in the near or not so near future are around one hundred percent.

But all of this is just wishful thinking I am pretty near sure.I think the actual reality is that Political Correctness is become the death of us. What IS PC really when practiced in the face of international aggression prosecuted by an organised multi-national coalition of professional killers? It's just plain ole cowardice. That's all it is.

PC used to be just about cultural disagreements and common arguements about philosophy and mores. It had some validity when discussing affirmative action or gay marriage. It has no validity when it assumes the fore in an effort at plain geo-political survival. Geo-political ascendence, or position jockying ....? ok. Politics and diplomacy are all right when you're trying to remain a nation of nice guys and prove it to the world. Though it is a losing game on that level as well.

But now PCness is suicide. A plain and simple death wish. If we and our elected officials have let PCness be our banner now, with the assembled masses of the Islamist killers at our throats, and it is not just a momentary cover, it is DENIAL practiced on a cosmic scale.

I am going to add one more thought that I DO NOT ADVOCATE but is a real possibility. If our ELECTED officials are not willing to perform the FIRST duty of an oganised society ... that is: Do what is plainly necessary to insure a common defense. Then I am sure there are still many members of the military who ARE willing. IF this gets just a little worse and our controllers continue waffling and failing in the face of the enemy ... our very Republic is in danger for the people will not go quietly. The military WILL be turned loose. I just hope they took that oath to the Constitution serriously and will reestablish the Republic after the war.


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To: wingnuts'nbolts
One would think so. From your keyboard to God's eyes!!!
61 posted on 10/20/2001 11:49:19 AM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
May it be to God's glory!
62 posted on 10/20/2001 11:51:36 AM PDT by Rockitz
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To: oldngray
When posts start to trickle .... go back to the smart guys and talk to them.

**** I am a firm believer that "all" illegal foreigners be deported ... why single out those from the mid-east! ****

Well I can think of some reasons to put the ME illegals at the top of the list. As to the question of illegal alliens in general. I agree. As to the Mexican workers we must simply start a real guest Worker program. I like having my construction projects completed and my lawn mowed.

63 posted on 10/20/2001 11:54:55 AM PDT by mercy
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To: FITZ
As far as I can tell, the PC crowd is now well out of favor with the mainstream since 9/11.

It's ironic - the terrorists meant to destroy America. They may well have ended up saving America.
64 posted on 10/20/2001 11:57:27 AM PDT by Victor_VI
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To: FITZ
In the past month I have become quite optimistic that the domestic enemies (Political Correctness advocates) can and will be defeated here on the homefront.
65 posted on 10/20/2001 11:57:41 AM PDT by Jay W
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To: KirklandJunction
I missed you. Funny post. And true. However, profiling the swarthy ones is a good start.
66 posted on 10/20/2001 12:00:19 PM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
Political Correctness has been a deadly tool in the hands of those with both common and diverse agendas, against the natural born citizens of the USofA, and those new citizens whose hearts are for American and for the dream held out by America.

Our government is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, anyone who still believes that needs a shrink. Our government is now a corporation, it is only "of, for, and by", in so far as it grants the ability of a diverse mix of people, they don't care who, to come and grease the wheels of the corporation, and that is the extent of their concern or care about us, our foundations, our destiny, our morals, or our doctrines and principles.

We are free to hold our doctrines and principles, only in so far as they do not clash with the goals and aims of the Corporation, which is to promote it's power, influence, and wealth. Liberals, just like heads of Labor Unions, negotiate the rights of the workers and those that don't work.

Where does that leave us Conservative Constitutionalists? Out in the cold, thats where. Those of us that believe that the foundations on which we began are critical to our individual freedom, the protection of our future, and a cherished birth right, to be guarded and passed down, in order to sustain individual freedoms are a big problem to the Corporation. The Corporation doesn't have such high flung ideals, the Corporation feels it should be able to dish out individual freedom at their control and benevolence in a way that is good for the Corporation and the sustaining of it's influence and power, if that clashes with individual rights, such as gun ownership, then those rights must go. After all what is good for the Corporation is good for the "right" individuals that understand and appreciate the Corporation.

If the Corporation is threatened, as it is now, then it is acceptable to put it's citizens in harms way if in so doing it ensures that the Corporation can continue with it's free trade, the wealth of Arab money buying influence, oil to run on, and cheap imported labor to operate with.

After all, get a grip, it is much easier to replace citizens that may be wiped out with new imports, rather than stop the "Doctrine of Free Trade", snake oil, that we are selling the rest of the world, the open border policies we promote, globalism, and World Government. What better thing to give you and your loved ones life and freedoms for eh? You can die a hero to the generation of worker bees that will come after you, and raise the economic level of individuals in the entire third world. Not to mention the fact that many pesky Constitutionalist may be wiped out in by terrorism, you know, those idiots that think they need to guard and pass down what the sacred blood of their ancestors bought for them to following generations that will treasure and uphold them. After all third worlders coming here really think they are free in comparison to where they have come from.

All that has to be done by the Corporation is say a few patriotic words, reassure the public, tell frightened citizens to spend that money, don't let the terrorists win, time to move forward, nothing to see here, etc. If elite Corporate members face a real threat however, they are to abandon the scene and head for cover immediately. Gas masks can be found all over the appropriate buildings. Welcome to Amerika, we are united, at least that is the way I see it so far.

Are we conservatives just being selfish, holding on to freedoms we don't need, hanging on to old ways, or are we the watch dogs of individual freedom, demanding an accountability on the part of a government that says "there is no controlling legal authority"? Do you own a farm, property? You may just be selfish and standing in the way of Corporate earnings and consuming resources that will benefit the hive. We do live in interesting times don't we.

67 posted on 10/20/2001 12:01:32 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: mercy
I am always glad to see you too, mercy.

I like the way you think ...about 99%

Tell me true ... it was the brussels sprouts controversy, wasn't it?! *grin*

68 posted on 10/20/2001 12:02:41 PM PDT by illstillbe
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To: Sabramerican
I missed your #23 untill now. I agree 100%. This is truly the reason I wrote this piece and has been the focus of any real 'efforts' of mine on FR since 9/11. It is the curcial focus of our survival as a nation and even as individuals.
69 posted on 10/20/2001 12:03:41 PM PDT by mercy
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To: illstillbe
Oh, indubitably.(sp?) I am lifted up by your poet's soul and your spine of steel.
70 posted on 10/20/2001 12:05:41 PM PDT by mercy
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To: boop
How about two detainment camps--one for the non-citizen Muslims and another for the anti-war protestors.

Put the food in an area between them--and let them fight over it.

Result--the only surviving peace protestors will have become brave warriors! Those folks are then ready to join America again.
71 posted on 10/20/2001 12:07:51 PM PDT by cgbg
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To: Victor_VI; Jay W
It's ironic - the terrorists meant to destroy America. They may well have ended up saving America.

Yes, they might have woke us up to how much America has been destroyed from within. I have faith there is enough of the old America left which will be saved, the politically correct America can't die fast enough as far as I'm concerned.

72 posted on 10/20/2001 12:08:48 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
bttt
73 posted on 10/20/2001 12:08:55 PM PDT by timestax
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To: FITZ
bttt
74 posted on 10/20/2001 12:09:04 PM PDT by timestax
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To: MissAmericanPie
WOW!! And DOUBLE WOW! I'm impressed ... and in love. }%=]

You scared me. Really. I can only offer hope. And not much of that. Maybe, just maybe some corporate officers have been 'scared straight', if only for a little while. Maybe GWB really is a Christian and has the 'mind of God'. At bottom, it is only true faith in Christian and Judaic values that will get us through this and on into any future worth living. Hope ... and PRAY.

75 posted on 10/20/2001 12:14:36 PM PDT by mercy
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To: cgbg
LOL ... I'll BUMP that.
76 posted on 10/20/2001 12:16:06 PM PDT by mercy
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To: illstillbe
Knee jerk protective measures which compromise our Constitution is one of the biggest dangers we face in these times, I believe.

How does the deportation of Middle East nationals that are here as "guests" in ANY WAY "compromise" our Constitution? Answer: IT DOESN'T. The U.S. Government under it's immigration laws and powers can deport anyone at any time for reasons of national security and a whole host of other reasons. Why do you libertarians continue to mischaracterize this issue by saying it’s unconstitutional? I suggest in the spirit of honesty that you just admit that you and other libertarians are willing to run the risk of more and greater acts of terrorism in this country at the hands of “visiting” Muslim terrorists rather than hurt the feelings of the Muslim population at large. You might as well admit it because YOU KNOW our government's right to deport is NOT a constitutional matter. Stop spreading the Big Lie and be candid for once.

77 posted on 10/20/2001 12:19:31 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: copycat
Laugh at the politically correct. Belittle them subtly. Pretend they must be joking with you when they are not

EXACTLY the WRONG thing to do. That's how PC got into power ... cause no one took it seriously at first. Now we could conceivably lose our country because of PC. You HAVE GOT TO GET IN THE FACE of ANYBODY or ANYTHING PC. Shout it down, knock it down, beat it down ... cause if we let it show it's ugly head again WE WILL ultimately lose.

78 posted on 10/20/2001 12:20:59 PM PDT by clamper1797
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To: clamper1797
OOOOH! I'll BUMP that without hesitation.
79 posted on 10/20/2001 12:25:23 PM PDT by mercy
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To: WRhine
why do you libertarians

LOL! Oh, sir ... I see the confusion reflected in your comments to me ... 'tis my fault ... for I was addressing a larger picture ...

I am anything but a libertarian, WRhine ... SEND THEM ALL BACK who are NOT legally here ... whose Visas have expired ... whose tourist Visas have expired ... whose work Visas have expired ... send them all back ...

This is, clearly, within the framework of our Constitution ... adheres to it from A to Z ... I WILL DRIVE THE BOAT ....N/C ... even though I am a happy little capitalist ...

But National ID cards and the like ... subjective face screenings?!

I've a small business, sir ... and employ legal Mexicans ... or none at all ... so I know a bit about this process ....

So I guess we can be friends ... as long as I make myself more clear?!

80 posted on 10/20/2001 12:32:53 PM PDT by illstillbe
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