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To: BeAChooser
Finally, let me ask you, YES OR NO, do you think that Clinton had motive to wish Brown dead? YES or NO, do you deny any of the other items listed in my list of suspicious items related to Brown's death? YES or NO, should Ron Brown's body be exhumed and autopsied by people we can trust?

1 - I think Johnny Chung is a dishonorable person and only 'came clean' because he was busted BIG TIME with his hand in Hillary's pocket. Instead of taking he was stuffing it full of cash to help defeat the things I hold important.

2 - I think all of you that defend Chung and hold him up to be a hero have selective morality which I argue is worse than having no morals at all. Once a thief always a thief.

3 - I don't trust a thing that LK or JW says without independent confirmation.

4 - I do think that Ron Brown may have been murdered and his murder may have been at the hands of the Clinton administration. However I DON'T believe that Brown ever said he was going to rat Clinton out. He was a very loyal democrat and was on top of the world (yes I will use that phrase again) at the time of his death. I, unlike you, have shown first source documents that indicate Brown was working harder than ever to protect Clinton, not rat him out.

5 - I dont really care either way if they dig up Brown's body. I've seen the autopsy pictures and it looks like he was shot. Thats good enough for me.

Now do you all see where *I* am coming from? I agree with you on just about everything except: JW is a very poor source of information and Johnny Chung is a stain on the flag and honor of this country and them men that have and are fighting to defend it.

126 posted on 10/21/2001 5:25:28 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado; BeAChooser; ALOHA RONNIE; johnny chung
You still haven't answered Be's questions YES or NO! Just like a lying lawyer, you twist the words in the wind.

This business about "once a thief, always a thief" doesn't hold water. Many men have been converted, including Chuck Colson, and afterwards done remarkable things for good. A good example would be John Newton. John Newton was a slave runner - one of the worst. Robert Wilberforce, an anti-slavery minister converted Newton. Newton turned from a drunken, swearing, slave-runner to a fighter against slavery. The memorial to Newton's conversion was the hymn he wrote, "Amazing Grace." {"I once was lost, but now am found, 'twas blind but now can see..."}

Don't bother hitting on Johnny Chung anymore until you can prove that he didn't have a change of heart. As far as I'm concerned, you are a liberal posing as a moderate and your arguments hold as much water as a collander.

127 posted on 10/21/2001 6:03:52 PM PDT by miss print
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To: VA Advogado
3 - I don't trust a thing that LK or JW says without independent confirmation.

Yet you apparently can't provide ONE INSTANCE where he lied or shaded the truth in the Chinagate, Filegate, Emailgate or death of Brown cases. You don't seem to have a basis for your distrust do you? ... other than not liking the fact that he sued his mom under circumstances that apparently you don't even know (we are still waiting to hear your source for that accusation ... one that shows Klayman's character to be other than honorable).

4 - I do think that Ron Brown may have been murdered and his murder may have been at the hands of the Clinton administration. However I DON'T believe that Brown ever said he was going to rat Clinton out. He was a very loyal democrat and was on top of the world (yes I will use that phrase again) at the time of his death. I, unlike you, have shown first source documents that indicate Brown was working harder than ever to protect Clinton, not rat him out.

OK. If you think he was murdered by Clinton but don't believe he intended to turn state's evidence, then what was the motive for Clinton murdering him? Come on ... Occam's Razor says the most obvious explanation is the one that we already have at least some indication of ... from Klayman, a source that you have yet to actually discredit with any facts other than a mean spirited smear about him sueing his mom. You also have not addressed the FACT that Nolanda Hill has NEVER denied Klayman's statement, no liberal media outlet ever disproved his claim and they undoubtedly would have if they could have, and he submitted the statement in a legal document as fact which if not true should have gotten him in big trouble with a three judge panel ... but it didn't.

Finally, you also have a strange definition for "on top of the world". Brown was a man in VERY DEEP legal trouble. He was watching his house of cards collapse around him and his family. Only his death prevented his wife and son from going down and his own reputation from being thoroughly destroyed.

5 - I dont really care either way if they dig up Brown's body. I've seen the autopsy pictures and it looks like he was shot. Thats good enough for me.

Well perhaps you should care. Exhuming Brown should be a high priority for the GOP because if it is true that Brown was shot then the whole DNC criminal mafia can be brought down ... including many in the liberal media who undeniably helped hid the facts about the case from the public. And by the way ... there was NO AUTOPSY ... only an "examination" of the body. The WHOLE POINT is that an autopsy SHOULD HAVE been done and if the Bush/Ashcroft won't do it now then we should be asking WHY come the next election.

142 posted on 10/21/2001 8:09:09 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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