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To: VA Advogado
3 - I don't trust a thing that LK or JW says without independent confirmation.

Yet you apparently can't provide ONE INSTANCE where he lied or shaded the truth in the Chinagate, Filegate, Emailgate or death of Brown cases. You don't seem to have a basis for your distrust do you? ... other than not liking the fact that he sued his mom under circumstances that apparently you don't even know (we are still waiting to hear your source for that accusation ... one that shows Klayman's character to be other than honorable).

4 - I do think that Ron Brown may have been murdered and his murder may have been at the hands of the Clinton administration. However I DON'T believe that Brown ever said he was going to rat Clinton out. He was a very loyal democrat and was on top of the world (yes I will use that phrase again) at the time of his death. I, unlike you, have shown first source documents that indicate Brown was working harder than ever to protect Clinton, not rat him out.

OK. If you think he was murdered by Clinton but don't believe he intended to turn state's evidence, then what was the motive for Clinton murdering him? Come on ... Occam's Razor says the most obvious explanation is the one that we already have at least some indication of ... from Klayman, a source that you have yet to actually discredit with any facts other than a mean spirited smear about him sueing his mom. You also have not addressed the FACT that Nolanda Hill has NEVER denied Klayman's statement, no liberal media outlet ever disproved his claim and they undoubtedly would have if they could have, and he submitted the statement in a legal document as fact which if not true should have gotten him in big trouble with a three judge panel ... but it didn't.

Finally, you also have a strange definition for "on top of the world". Brown was a man in VERY DEEP legal trouble. He was watching his house of cards collapse around him and his family. Only his death prevented his wife and son from going down and his own reputation from being thoroughly destroyed.

5 - I dont really care either way if they dig up Brown's body. I've seen the autopsy pictures and it looks like he was shot. Thats good enough for me.

Well perhaps you should care. Exhuming Brown should be a high priority for the GOP because if it is true that Brown was shot then the whole DNC criminal mafia can be brought down ... including many in the liberal media who undeniably helped hid the facts about the case from the public. And by the way ... there was NO AUTOPSY ... only an "examination" of the body. The WHOLE POINT is that an autopsy SHOULD HAVE been done and if the Bush/Ashcroft won't do it now then we should be asking WHY come the next election.

142 posted on 10/21/2001 8:09:09 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: BeAChooser; VA Advogado; ALOHA RONNIE; goldilucky; Snow Bunny; reformjoy; ChaseR; Landru
VA A: 5 - I dont really care either way if they dig up Brown's body. I've seen the autopsy pictures and it looks like he was shot. Thats good enough for me. Be A: Well perhaps you should care. Exhuming Brown should be a high priority for the GOP because if it is true that Brown was shot then the whole DNC criminal mafia can be brought down ... including many in the liberal media who undeniably helped hid the facts about the case from the public. And by the way ... there was NO AUTOPSY ... only an "examination" of the body. The WHOLE POINT is that an autopsy SHOULD HAVE been done and if the Bush/Ashcroft won't do it now then we should be asking WHY come the next election.

First, VA Advogado, how did you get to see the autopsy/"examination" photos of Ron Brown when they have never been published? Are you in the gov't. and privileged to see photos that have been kept from the public? Inquiring minds want to know... The only thing is, you never answer the hard questions but just keep repeating fuzzy mantras about Johnny Chung being a criminal, Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch, etc., without EVER acknowledging and/or refuting any info. we have given. My claim that you are a leftist posing as a moderate still stands as you have yet to refute it.

Second, Be A Chooser, why wait till next election to start asking questions? Bush/Ashcroft should be asked those questions NOW - not 3 years from now!

The one real problem I have with MOST Republicans is that they don't do anything - as long as there is a Republican in the Oval Office. For 3.5 years they go into hibernation and only do something when an election is forthcoming. In the meantime, the Dems. are working as rust, 'round the clock, to take away our constitutional liberties, etc. Those self-same Republicans chant their mantra of, "But we've got a decent guy in the White House!" and they don't ask tough questions.

Larry Klayman IS asking tough questions of Bush. The lazy Republicans who hide behind their self-righteous mantra don't like Larry's questions, but WHO ELSE is asking those questions? For one thing, why the hell hasn't Bush rescinded all those Constitution-busting Executive Orders issued by Clinton? For example, EO 13166 - the one that says everyone in this country WHO CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH has a "right" to be provided an interpreter. What about rescinding Clinton's unconstitutional Presidential Decision Directive 25 ("PDD 25")? That is so secret that when Michael New tried to have it subpoenaed for his court-martial trial, it was refused as being "Classified" or "Top Secret." Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say that the executive branch has the authority to create policy and law for the country? We are not living in a kingdom, we live in a republic. No president has the constitutional authority to do the stuff Clinton got away with nor does Bush, just because "he's a decent guy!"

Let's remember that prior to WWII, Hitler had a meeting with the clergy in Germany. The clergy were falling all over Hitler instead of asking tough questions. Only one clergyman got up and asked tough questions of him. The others held in their horror - how could someone question der fuehrer? Turns out, the one lone clergyman was correct and the rest of the clinging cloying clergy were nothing but sheeple. The name of the concentration camp in Germany escapes me but there is a plaque on the door leading to it with an apology from the clergy. (Focus on the Family had an audio tape about this a few years back. It was one of the most popular.)

Yeah, I like the guy who asks tough questions. Life is like a turtle, you don't get anywhere unless you stick out your neck. Larry Klayman sticks out his neck and asks tough questions. My kind of guy. GO KLAYMAN GO! GO JUDICIAL WATCH GO!!

154 posted on 10/22/2001 1:56:10 AM PDT by miss print
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