IRA plotted with Nazis to invade Northern Ireland

Electronic Telegraph ^ | 19 October 2001 | http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$VK2N3UIAADY21QFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/

[aculeus]

A PLOT by the IRA to link up with the Nazis to invade Northern Ireland during the Second World War was disclosed in secret service files published by the Public Record Office yesterday.

According to the MI5 records, Germany parachuted a spy into Southern Ireland in 1940 to assess the feasibility of the plan after being approached by the terrorist group.

But the plan was foiled after the spy, Dr Hermann Goertz, aka Heinz Kruse, or just "K", was arrested a year later by the Irish government.

The memorandum, written in 1943, read: "On the 5th May 1940 Goertz landed by parachute at Ballivor, Co Meath, Eire. Earlier that year the IRA had been in touch with the German SS through the intermediary of Stephen Carroll Held.

"Held had visited Berlin with a proposal from the IRA for an attack on Northern Ireland by the Germans to be supported by 5,000 IRA recruited in Eire and Northern Ireland.

"Goertz's mission was to examine this proposal and to obtain. . . the military information on which the joint attack by the Germans and the IRA on Northern Ireland could be based."

The report says that he met Stephen Hayes, then leader of the IRA in Dublin, but the meeting was raided. While money, a radio transmitter and a German airman's cap were seized, along with the manuscript of the plan, codenamed Kathleen, Goertz escaped.

For the next year Goertz, who had been arrested as a spy and deported before the war, lived in a number of IRA safe houses. During that period he was approached by a member of the Irish Army, Maj Gen McNeill, a fascist, the files say.

It is believed he was hoping to resurrect some kind of Fascist "Blueshirt" organisation with the help of the Germans. At first, British intelligence believed that McNeill's involvement meant that the Irish Government was collaborating, but its investigation showed he was acting independently.

The operation and McNeill's attempt to link up with the Nazis came to nothing when Goertz was arrested in November 1941.

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[Feiny]

I used to sympathize with the IRA until I learned more about them. Just read the Tom Clancy novel "Rainbow 6" to learn about them.....I know it's fiction, but Tom does tons of research and tries to be as factual as possible. That was my first eye-opener. The IRA has trained in Afghan terrorist camps....and they are Maoists!

[HEFFERNAN2]

Hey mister, since you don't live in NI you wouldn't have a clue what the IRA is about or what the Catholics in NI deal with daily. Catholics are alive in NI because of the protection of the IRA. PERIOD.

[Wm Bach]

Hey history buff:

On October 20, 1942, the US Alien Property Custodian, under the "Trading With the Enemy Act," seized the shares of the Union Banking Corporation (UBC), of which Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder. The largest shareholder was E. Roland Harriman. (Bush was also the managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman, a leading Wall Street investment firm.)

The UBC was established to send American capital to Germany to finance the reorganization of its industry under the Nazis. Their leading German partner was the notorious Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, who wrote a book admitting much of this called "I Paid Hitler."

Among the companies financed was the Silesian-American Corporation, which was also managed by Prescott Bush, and by his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, who supplied Dub-a-Ya with his name. The company was vital in supplying coal to the Nazi war industry. It too was seized as a Nazi-front on November 17, 1942. The largest company Bush's UBC helped finance was the German Steel Trust, responsible for between one-third and one-half of Nazi iron and explosives.

Prescott Bush was also a director of the Harriman Fifteen Corporation, (this one owned largely by Roland's brother, Averell Harriman), which owned about a third of the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, the rest owned by Friedrich Flick, (a member of Himmler's "Circle of Friends" who donated to the S.S.).

Republican Presidential candidate Bush's great-grandfather, Bert Walker, helped organize the Harriman investment in the Hamburg-America Line of ships, of which grandfather Prescott became a director. It was seized on August 28, 1942 because it was used to give free passage to Nazi propaganda and propagandists, and had earlier shipped guns to the Nazi's private armies to assist their takeover of Germany.

Further examples would be more tedious than shocking. But, given these evil financial dealings, how did Prescott later become a Republican Senator, and George H.W. become President? Well,the two leading attorneys for these Bush-Harriman-Nazi deals were John Foster Dulles, later Secretary of State under Eisenhower, and Allen Dulles, future head of the CIA.

[Freemeorkillme]

No, I prefer Norther Ireland recruiting their own and creating a coalition with Scotland and Wales. I don't think I ever heard Bush stutter. Did you hear something about all terrorists with the exeption of the IRA? Thought not.

Like I said: black souls, faces of many colors.

[LS]

And where do the Roswell Aliens fit into this???

[Wm Bach]

It fits right in with the IRA/Nazi story.

[HEFFERNAN2]

Well I see all the ant-Catholic bigots have reared their ugly heads out of the gutter today. Always good to know what people really believe. Just remember bigots if not for the Catholics in general and Irish-Catholics in particular in the world today you all would be living under Communism or Nazism. Semper Fi, Mike

[Colosis]

I prefer Norther Ireland recruiting their own and creating a coalition

They already have. UDA, UVF, LVF, Third Force, Orange Order, RHD, British army, SAS - need any more?

[HEFFERNAN2]

Don't waste your time sending me email. My relatives in Sligo are all dead thanks to the Brits.

[Ironword]

Dudes, since Pope Adrian authorized a British invasion of Ireland in the twelfth century, for the purposes of exterminating the independent, Celtic Christian congregations that were in apposition to (and antagonistic to) Rome, don't you think the Irish-British beef has an origin fomented outside the Isles?

[Stefan Stackhouse]

I'm sure the Nazis tried. And it's possible the IRA talked to them as well. But the question that occurs to me, is why are the Brits releasing this tidbit of information now? Could it be that they are hoping to take advantage of the "special relationship" at a time of crisis to persuade Bush to take the British side in the ongoing argument over Northern Ireland?

Of course this is what the Brits want. Just like the Russians want us to take their side against the Chechens, the Indians want us to take their side against the Pakistanis, the Spanish want us to take their side against the Basques, The Chinese want us to take their side against the Uigyars, and the Israelis want us to take their side against the Palestinians and the entire Arab world.

[HEFFERNAN2]

Well you are right that there was a pope in the 12th century by the name of Adrian...He was English and he had been led to believe by Henry II that the state of Ireland was deplorable and made it appear that his sole motive was for the good of the Irish eventhough the possession of Ireland had always been coveted at an early period by the Norman rulers of Great Britain. It had nothing to do with Rome or "for the good of the Church" as you would have us believe. Semper Fi, Mike

[HEFFERNAN2]

Try reading some history instead of fiction...you will learn more facts and less fiction. Semper Fi, Mike

[Harrison Bergeron]

So terrorism is OK if it's for your team. "Semper Fi" my a$$.

[Moleman]

The facist blueshirts and the IRA were were arch enemies but never let the truth get in the way of a good story. For an abundance of barmy anti-Irish propaganda, aculeus can always turn to the English Telegraph.
Agree 100% This needs a tinfoil and gag alert.

[HEFFERNAN2]

Well that is profound...now do you have an opinion backed up by facts or just profanity backed up by ignorance of history. Over one million dead Irish over 700 years of British occupation...yes I would say that is terrorism. Semper Fi, Mike

[The Old Hoosier]

Just remember bigots if not for the Catholics in general and Irish-Catholics in particular in the world today you all would be living under Communism or Nazism.

This Irish Catholic agrees, but has a hard time with a "Catholic" group that aligns itself with Fidel Castro and blows up civilians. Their vision for NI is a socialist state.

[Harrison Bergeron]

Post away. You can't escape the fact that when you support the IRA, you support baby-murdering Marxist scum.

[Feiny]

I suggest you do the same. I said Clancy was the EYEOPENER for me...I did further research & found the fiction to be non-fiction. I do not believe that England should be in NI, but I also believe that the IRA are evil people....and they are socialist/maoist/communist/terrorists!

And I AM IRISH!

[constitutiongirl]

Well, grid, no mention of the various para groups who support the other side of this battle? Have you any idea how many innocent people they have killed? Read the CAIN report on-line or the book "The Committee" by Sean McPhilemy and educate yourself on the NI situation. Of course, you never had to live in a neighborhood that depended on the IRA to protect them from loyalist terrorists and crooked RUC and UDR officers.I have no problem with people condemning what the IRA has become, however, I notice that most of you omit or ignore the Unionist terrorists. "Irish bombs killing British babies, bad...British bombs killing Irish babies, good."