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To: Jerry_M
You have made a valid point; however, we may now be in or near the time "In that day, those who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved."

The requirements for salvation have varied from time to time, especially at the beginning. Many will not have time to find a church and be baptized and I believed they will be saved. Also I believe that perhaps others may be saved but I wouldn't personally want to bank on it.

48 posted on 10/17/2001 3:28:08 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska; Jerry_M; BibChr
The requirements for salvation have varied from time to time, especially at the beginning.

I don't think the requirements for salvation have changed since before the foundation of the world.

Jerry, Dan what do you think?

59 posted on 10/17/2001 3:54:21 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Aliska
The requirements for salvation have varied from time to time, especially at the beginning. Many will not have time to find a church and be baptized and I believed they will be saved. Also I believe that perhaps others may be saved but I wouldn't personally want to bank on it.

I remember when I was first saved. I prayed and asked Jesus to forgive me for my sins. What was I doing? I was (1) acknowledging that I had sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (boy we really don't pay attention to what that really means), and (2) I wanted him to be my companion for all eternity. I didn't say it that way, but that is what I meant and that is what he looks for. I will never forget that moment. I was in sixth grade.

It was at that moment I was born again, which means only that I have a new spirit in my body that was born of God (who is a spirit). Being born into the family of God means that heaven is my home because I am a child of God (the muslims are not children of God). Let me say this again. I do not enter heaven because of what I did or did not do, but because of who I am. My son, for example, comes home to my home because he is my son and that makes my home his home. But the kid down the street doesn't come home to my home. He comes home to his father's home.

Jesus said to the leaders of Israel's religion that their father was the devil. It was not that he was trying to say they were demon possessed, but that we all fall short of the Glory and die spiritually- are out of fellowship with God. He never intends to heal our spirit, but to crucify it with Christ and give us a new spirit- rebirth our spirit- a whole new spirit on the inside. This spirit is the real us, the real man. This is the person on the inside that has the nature of God, the love of God, and through which God will guide his child.
63 posted on 10/17/2001 4:09:22 PM PDT by greggy
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To: Aliska; CCWoody; RnMomof7; the_doc; Uriel1975
"The requirements for salvation have varied from time to time, especially at the beginning. Many will not have time to find a church and be baptized and I believed they will be saved."

Whoever said that baptism and church membership were requirements for salvation?

I think that you will find that the "requirements for salvation" have not varied one bit. Those who are elected by God to salvation will be saved by the atoning sacrifice of Christ in their place, and will be sanctified by His power. This has been the same from the beginning.

89 posted on 10/18/2001 6:04:57 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Aliska
The requirements for salvation have varied from time to time, especially at the beginning. Many will not have time to find a church and be baptized and I believed they will be saved. Also I believe that perhaps others may be saved but I wouldn't personally want to bank on it.

Help I am confused :>)Would you tell me what your church teaches as necessary for Salvation?

98 posted on 10/18/2001 8:21:46 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Aliska
The requirements for salvation have varied from time to time

The requirements have always been the same. Faith.

Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

Ga 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Ga 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Ga 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Ga 3:10

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Ga 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

112 posted on 10/18/2001 11:23:50 AM PDT by netman
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