[Marduk]

" So where the heck does the judiciary come off eliminating or regulating ANY governmental expression of christianity, judaism or whatever? "

Of course, you are right. This ammendment clearly only prevents Congress from outlawing a religion or specifically establishing a state religion. It does not mean separation of church and state. The term "separation of church and state" is not in the Consitution. And of course, it only applies to Congress, not the states.

It should be obvious then that school prayer is not unconstituional because it does not involve an act of Conbgress establiushing a state religion or prohibiting a religion.

But the Elite that controls the USA has an agenda that involves destroying Christianity. So this Elite purposely perverts the real meaning of the Consitution to make it look like the Consitution supports their anti-Christian crusade.

[sonjay]

It should be obvious then that school prayer is not unconstituional because it does not involve an act of Conbgress establiushing a state religion or prohibiting a religion.

I understand the sentiments behind wanting to permit prayer in school (prayers said aloud, I'm referring to here, because anyone can pray silently anywhere; that's not prohibited anywhere yet, AFAIK.)

And yet ... and yet .... What kind of prayer? Which G*d? I think everyone who is part of any of the mainstream Judeo-Christian denominations would not want their children to be led in a prayer to Allah, or Buddha, or the Supreme Mother of the Vegetarian Universe (or whoever the heck it is those Vegans pray to). Nor would parents who believe in those gods want their children led in a prayer to the Judeo-Christian G*d.

Further, any prayer that is generic enough to not favor one religion over another is probably pretty worthless as far as prayer goes.

That is why I believe prayer does not belong in the government schools.