[aruanan]

Criminals offer moral surrender of their claim to the protections afforded by inalienable rights, when they make the decision to violate the rights of others.

Even criminals who don't violate the rights of others? Unless, of course, you're saying that any violation of "the law" is, in itself, a violation of the rights of others. You just strained at a gnat and swallowed a camel.

[OWK]

Even criminals who don't violate the rights of others? Unless, of course, you're saying that any violation of "the law" is, in itself, a violation of the rights of others. You just strained at a gnat and swallowed a camel.

You have it the wrong way around (and unfortunately so often does government).

Anything that does not violate the rights of others, is not a crime.