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The Psychosis We Won't Name (Muslim anti-Semitism)
Andrew Sullivan.com ^
| 10/16/01
| Andrew Sullivan
Posted on 10/16/2001 6:17:16 AM PDT by vrwc54
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To: dennisw
This anti-Semitism is openly fostered and fomented by many of the "moderate" Arab regimes we are now busy cozying up to. It is widely believed across the Muslim world - from the Philippines to Morocco to the denizens of our own native Muslim, Mr. Farrakhan. I'm glad we finally have some writers indicating exactly what this is. An anti-Jew mentality and ideology is a fundamental feature of Islam and particularly in Arab Islamic countries.
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posted on
10/16/2001 1:13:19 PM PDT
by
Lent
To: trax2001
"The math is scary tho, if there are say 3 billion Muslims and continued growth asit is the fastest growing religion and there are 4% who ae radicals,"
However, at least half that number is their women, who aren't educated and not allowed out of the house... except to dance in the streets when American civilians are murdered. This women send their sons out to throw rocks at soldiers!!! These women stay in Kabul when the U.S. has told them they're going to be bombed. How stupid can you get?
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To: trax2001
You're absolutely right!
To: Lent
I guess we have to fight WWII as well as the Gulf war over again
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To: trax2001
There are times I am so glad I'm not religious That's an answer or solution? Maybe the right kind of faith which doesn't encourage Jihads is the answer. And remember, the biggest slaughter houses in the last century were perpetrated by atheistic regimes - the Soviet Union under Stalin and Red China.
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10/16/2001 2:12:55 PM PDT
by
Lent
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To: Lent
surely the point needn't be made that non-religious is not synonymous with atheistic ? ?
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posted on
10/16/2001 3:24:21 PM PDT
by
tomkat
To: Fred25
Do they think America first, or do they think Islam first, Zion first, Mexico first, China first, Afghanistan first, etc. If they dont think America first, then kick them out of our country.What about all the "Poland First," "Russia First" and "Yugoslavia First" people we see on Free Republic? Why do you leave them out?
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posted on
10/16/2001 3:37:38 PM PDT
by
Inyokern
To: Inyokern
What about all the "Poland First," "Russia First" and "Yugoslavia First" people we see on Free Republic? Why do you leave them out? Ok, ok.... We need to think America First, not Poland First, Russia First, Yugoslavia First, Armenia First, Belize First, Brunei First, Congo First, Dutch Antilles First, Fiji First, Guinea Bissau First, Indonesia First, Kazakhstan First, Luxembourg First, Mozambique First, Papua New Guinea First, Sao Tome First, Swaziland First, Trinidad & Tobago First, Mugobugo First, West Samoa First, Shangri La First, UkiBooki First, etc., etc.
Does that about cover it?
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posted on
10/16/2001 4:03:20 PM PDT
by
Fred25
To: Fred25
I said Nazi because the Nazis and Islam pursue almost exactly the same goals. As far as your "test"
I agree with "America first" when it comes to other countries or races BUT you mentioned a religion. Ask Christians if it is Jesus first or not
Are you going to throw them out as well??? For most religious people it is soul first (duty to God) then country. The soul should be a private citizens domain and not the governments. We were talking individuals here.
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posted on
10/16/2001 4:18:08 PM PDT
by
DB
To: Fred25
I think you need anger management classes.
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posted on
10/16/2001 4:22:17 PM PDT
by
veronica
To: vrwc54
Why, one wonders, have no Western leaders confronted this ugly truth and condemned it? What hasn't the Pope?That's a good question.
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posted on
10/16/2001 4:22:18 PM PDT
by
pgkdan
To: Fred25
I wonder if you Pat Buchanan clones (America First!!!) who run around questioning the loyalty of other Americans (which of course is THE most Un-American thing you could do) actually know anything about the original America Firsters.
They were a bunch of Hitler appeasing isolationists, whom most Americans despised and shunned. America Firsters Charles Lindbergh and Joe Kennedy ended up disgraced, their reputations in tatters. Their "America First" rantings just covered up their bigotry.
Yelling America First has nothing to do with putting the USA above all, which most Americans do automatically, and that loyalty is not in question because they feel a connection on some level to their family roots in another country (as JFK did Ireland.)
It's just more Pat Buchanan-style bigotry, which is why Pat is basically a pariah.
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posted on
10/16/2001 4:32:27 PM PDT
by
veronica
To: vrwc54
A.S. is a wonderful commentator, but he is so off base with this one. Like his article "This Is A Religious War," he is too shallow in his analysis and too forgiving of what we face.
Yes, Islam is "anti-semitic" (altho Arabs are semites.) But "hating Jews" (the proper phrase, not the epicene and inaccurate "anti-semiticism") is undifferentiated from hating Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Bhuddists, atheists and other infidels.
The mistake A.S. is making, and which he made in his recent article about this being a "religious war," is that he does not see the original rationale for Islam. Sullivan, equating Islam with his experience of Christianity, mistakenly thinks that this is all some sort of misunderstanding which nicer people can clear up.
The Jews are objects of hatred, but no less so than all infidels. Moslems focus on the Jews only because Moslems seek to divide the infidels, and they see an opening in America's support for Israel. It is a "wedge" issue.
Moslems hope we will give up on the Jews, because the price for supporting them will become too high to pay. Then, the Moslems will take over more territory. But the territory will be no more significant in the long run, than mere acreage. The territory they want, is not only the Earth, but also the death of infidels.
Sullivan is too constricted and a-historic in his pov. The Crusades where not imperialist, they were a reaction to jihad.
Sullivan, a brilliant man, is here not seeing the big picture. Islam's hatred is intended for all everywhere. If even smart men like Sullivan buy into the mere "anti-semitic" view of Islam, then they have successfully given their prospective killers the signal that the West has given up.
To: veronica
Nag, nag, nag, nag....
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posted on
10/16/2001 4:40:49 PM PDT
by
Fred25
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