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To: The_Reader_David
The Fathers also point out that any attempt to make an image of the unseen God before the Incarnation would necessarily be false. Things changed with the Incarnation: God took on humanity, and with it depictability; God also entered into matter in a new way in the Incarnation. To deny the appropriateness of the Holy Icons ultimately always comes down to a doubt about the reality of the Incarnation. Once one depicts Christ, what argument is there against depicting His Mother, and his friends, the saints? Do you oppose all representational art as do strict Muslims?

Show me where the commandment makes exceptions. Get out your Bible and read what it says, then show me where it makes any exceptions. Read it a couple of times if you need to. You'll find it makes no exceptions. Don't make to yourselves images. Not of men, birds, fish Animals that walk the earth. Don't bow to them.... nowhere in there does it say "except if it's me or one of my followers. Then it's ok." No, it says anyone doing these things will suffer the wrath of the lord who imposes his judgements down through 4 generations (Sinner, Sinner's kids, Sinner's grandkids, Sinner's great grandkids). You want personal, God made it personal, if you screw up, he'll make your great grandchildren sorry you did it. He is merciful too; but, he doesn't play games.

773 posted on 10/17/2001 2:40:19 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: Havoc
Didn't read the first paragraph, eh? No idols, no likenesses, nothing about no images. Have you bothered reading the parts of the Old Testament concerning the Ark of the Covenant? God commanded images (not idols or likenesses) of cherubim be made to adorn it. Do you think the ancient Jews did not venerate the Ark of the Covenant? Think again.

Do you really have no realistic art? no representational art?

787 posted on 10/17/2001 2:53:36 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: Havoc
You'll find it makes no exceptions. Don't make to yourselves images. Not of men, birds, fish Animals that walk the earth.

I'm curious, You once said you are an artist, well what do you depict?

790 posted on 10/17/2001 2:56:52 PM PDT by Pelayo
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To: Havoc
So you do believe as the strict Muslims do!
795 posted on 10/17/2001 3:15:16 PM PDT by RobbyS
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