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To: NATE4"ONE NATION"
Slain in the spirit, tounges without interpretation, prayer language.

Slain in the spirit: Struck by the power of God (plenty of examples in both OT and NT, such as Daniel being on his face in the presence of the angel, etc.); tongues (someone stepping out in faith to speak) without interpretation (no one else being bold enough to complete the process, meaning that God's gifts are coming through human vessels), sorry it's not as perfect as you'd like it to be; prayer language: the term isn't found in the NT, but there are passages that indicate that this is a valid concept: "For the Spirit helps our infirmities, for we know not how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings that cannot be uttered." "I thank God I speak in tongues more than you all" But IN THE CHURCH I would rather speak five words with my understanding, to teach others, than ten thousand in an unknown tongue." " But how is it then, brethren? When you come together EVERY ONE OF YOU has a psalm, has a doctrine, HAS A TONGUE, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let ALL things be done unto edyifying (emphasis mine).

Your objections have more to do with perceived disorder than with actual practice. In the case of tongues, there is a public and private use. You confuse the two. And, because sometimes tongues are given and no interpretation follows, you then say that it proves that it is wrong, rather than understand that we are all "Christians under construction" and as such mistakes will be made. I think you're a lot more offended by that than God is. As for private use of tongues, can you really make any sort of case that this is wrong? What harm comes from it? What damage does it do? I've been doing so for 29 years now...are you seriously going to tell me that my walk with God has been derailed or damaged because of that? No way, my friend, it has enhanced and edified, it has drawn me closer to Him, it has blessed me when there were no words I could say to pour my heart out to God. I feel for those who can't or won't accept this gift. They don't know what they're missing.

7,188 posted on 11/09/2001 7:04:08 AM PST by nobdysfool
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To: nobdysfool
As for private use of tongues, can you really make any sort of case that this is wrong? What harm comes from it? What damage does it do? I've been doing so for 29 years now...

I'm curious. What purpose does praying in tongues serve? What about it makes it a manifestation of the Spirit of God?

7,199 posted on 11/09/2001 7:21:16 AM PST by malakhi
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To: nobdysfool
But how is it then, brethren? When you come together EVERY ONE OF YOU has a psalm, has a doctrine, HAS A TONGUE, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let ALL things be done unto edyifying (emphasis mine).
You are right and Paul was correcting an error that the church was making hence the purpose for 1stCorinthians in the first place. He wanted to help give them order to what they were doing however this passage is a scape goat to modern day Pentacostals and they use it as an excuse not to correct their disorder?

"For the Spirit helps our infirmities, for we know not how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings that cannot be uttered."
I have experienced this where I felt so deep in prayer and would even cry but not know what to say so I felt like groaning. I kept most of it in though yet I relate to this verse.
This passage though, is not an excuse or license for every Christian to invent his own Star Trek language.
Before it is brought up as another example
Though I speak with tounges of men and angels, and have not love>>>"

Hyperbole, exageration. A common way to get the point across. Just like saying the "Stars will fall from Heaven" exagerated terms to press a point. Even if Paul were to speak in the language of God Himself, yet had not love, it would mean nothing.
7,218 posted on 11/09/2001 7:55:35 AM PST by NATE4"ONE NATION"
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