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To: angelo
So this is one of those doctrines that evolves? That has developed and become more nuanced

In a word, yes. And we regard that development of doctrine, most recently taught by Vatican II, as no more illegitimate than Nicaea's homoousian or Lateran IV's Transubstantiation definition.

Beyond that and what I've written earlier, I really have nothing further to say on this subject.

Pray for John Paul II

6,440 posted on 11/07/2001 5:38:08 AM PST by dignan3
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To: dignan3
angelo: So this is one of those doctrines that evolves? That has developed and become more nuanced

dignan3: In a word, yes.

OK, the solemn declaration, proclamation, and definition by a pope "that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff" has 'evolved' to the point where in Vatican II, the Church in Council under the pope acknowledges that in fact submission to the Roman Pontiff is not absolutely necessary for salvation. 'Evolution' cannot turn a doctrine into its exact opposite, can it? The earlier statement is in reality overturned, but no one will acknowledge it. Boniface and Vatican II cannot both be correct. Either one or the other is wrong. FWIW, I think y'all have it right now, and it was Boniface that was in error.

6,527 posted on 11/07/2001 8:01:30 AM PST by malakhi
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