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To: JohnnyM
Yes I know the promise is to the sheep, and I am saying the sheep are the ones who are saved.

You've still missed the point. The sheep are not merely the saved. The sheep are those that hear and obey/follow. Look at romans 8 again. No condemnation for those who are saved and walking in the Spirit of God rather than after the flesh. The Sheep are those who are saved and hearing/obeying (ie following God in the Spirit). The sheep are not the ones who are saved and do their own thing. Thus, 'not every man that cryeth Lord Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven.' The Kingdom is for those who overcome. And, once again, overcomers are not those who give in to that which they are trying to overcome.

6,237 posted on 11/06/2001 10:15:10 AM PST by Havoc
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To: Havoc
so what happens if God sees me as a sheep and I sin and die without asking for forgiveness. Do I then go to hell???

JM
6,238 posted on 11/06/2001 10:16:44 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: Havoc
The sheep are not merely the saved.

Ok, I'll bite, who are merely the saved and what are they saved from?

BigMack

6,241 posted on 11/06/2001 10:19:52 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Havoc; JohnnyM
To: JohnnyM

Once you have accepted Christ as your Lord and Saviour you accept His sacrifice for you. You are clean.

Yes, until you do something to make yourself unclean.

Heb 10:26-29. If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There will be only the dreadful prospect of judgement and of the raging fire that will burn rebels. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three, and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment.

6246 posted on 11/6/01 1:24 PM Central by allend

Havoc my friend, this looks close to what you are saying.

BigMack

6,253 posted on 11/06/2001 10:30:21 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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