[vmatt]

If they are illusions that does not add a point to existing. Only if they are real is existance meaningful.

How can there be meaningful existance in this illusion we call life? At any moment we could drop dead. At any moment a child dies. How is it real when God already knows our end? The real existance begins at our own resurrection. That is paramount and why Paul stated the following:

1 Corinthians 15

19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

[Joyful Wisdom]

How can there be meaningful existance in this illusion we call life? At any moment we could drop dead. At any moment a child dies. How is it real when God already knows our end? The real existance begins at our own resurrection. That is paramount and why Paul stated the following:

I have never met a nihilist who believes the bible. Will wonders never cease

[JohnnyM]

oh my gosh dude. That Scripture is totally OUT OF CONTEXT!!!

1 Cor 15-19:
Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.

What Paul is saying that if Christ did not raise from the dead. That if you don't believe in the resurrection, then your faith and hope are worhtless, because there is nothing after this life. He is not saying in any way that this is our present state, unless you don't beleive in the resurrection, and if you don't then you are not a Christian.

JM