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To: Joyful Wisdom
Ephesians 1

1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

2,761 posted on 10/25/2001 8:54:52 AM PDT by vmatt
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To: vmatt
Rom. 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predetinate to be conformed to the image of his Son that he might be the first=born among many brethren.

God did not predestinate us to be saved, he predestinated believers to be as Christ because he foreknew them as accepters of their own free will to his gift. We have to be as Christ to get to heaven, we can't be as Christ, so God makes us that way.

Becky

2,765 posted on 10/25/2001 8:59:53 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: vmatt
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Thank you, these are great scriptures.

2,766 posted on 10/25/2001 9:00:11 AM PDT by JHavard
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