[OLD REGGIE]

OK, friends and neighbors. Would you consider this a fair story illustrating Sola Scriptura in action? Mr C didn't just blindly believe the first thing he thought, he sought out counsel from Church and Christians. He entertained other ideas. But at the end of the day he was compelled to believe what Scripture said. To him. Through his inspired reading and study.

No this isn't a fair story of Sola Scriptura. It is a fair story of what you want to force on everyone else. It is a fair story of your bullheadedness. It is a fair story of what Mr. C thought and did. I'm afraid Mr. C is on his own.

This is a "fair" description of Sola Scriptura:

"Actually, calling it "Sola Scriptura" is a bit of a misnomer, because it is not a doctrine which teaches that we believe that there are not other authorities, nor that they have no value or place. Rather, it means that other authorities must be subordinate to the Word of God. The phrase "Sola scriptura" implies several things. First, that the Scriptures are a direct revelation from God, and as such, are His Authoritative Word. It is also a term which illustrates that the scriptures are all that is necessary for Church faith and practice today. Not only that the scriptures are sufficient, but that they also are the ultimate and final court of appeal on all doctrinal matters. Because however good and faithful a Church leader may be in giving his guidance, all the fathers, teachers, popes, and councils, are still fallible. The only infallible "source" for truth is the scriptures. Besides God Himself, Only His Words (the Scriptures alone), are infallible."

By Tony Warren
The Mountain Retreat!
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I, for one, am through discussing Sola Scriptura with you!

Next subject:

I will invent a fanciful definition of "Magisterium" and hold you to my definition. Fair?

[JohnnyM]

""Actually, calling it "Sola Scriptura" is a bit of a misnomer, because it is not a doctrine which teaches that we believe that there are not other authorities, nor that they have no value or place. Rather, it means that other authorities must be subordinate to the Word of God. The phrase "Sola scriptura" implies several things. First, that the Scriptures are a direct revelation from God, and as such, are His Authoritative Word. It is also a term which illustrates that the scriptures are all that is necessary for Church faith and practice today. Not only that the scriptures are sufficient, but that they also are the ultimate and final court of appeal on all doctrinal matters. Because however good and faithful a Church leader may be in giving his guidance, all the fathers, teachers, popes, and councils, are still fallible. The only infallible "source" for truth is the scriptures. Besides God Himself, Only His Words (the Scriptures alone), are infallible."

I am in 100% agreement with that statement. Sola Scriptura is not subjective (as SD and most RCs believe) but objective.

JM

[SoothingDave]

It is also a term which illustrates that the scriptures are all that is necessary for Church faith and practice today. Not only that the scriptures are sufficient, but that they also are the ultimate and final court of appeal on all doctrinal matters. Because however good and faithful a Church leader may be in giving his guidance, all the fathers, teachers, popes, and councils, are still fallible. The only infallible "source" for truth is the scriptures.

How is this different from what Mr C did? I am not being "bullheaded" on purpose, I am trying to understand how Sola Scriptura really works in the life of a Christian. Didn't Mr C use Scripture as "the final court of appeal"? How is what I wrote different from what you wrote?

If you don't wish to discuss this anymore perhaps someone will answer me.

SD

[ksen]

Thank you for that defintion from Tony Warren. It was very well put.

-ksen

[Havoc]

Actually, calling it "Sola Scriptura" is a bit of a misnomer, ....

One day, ya'll will learn to listen to me. I've been saying this since I first saw it introduced. It's nothing more than a red herring with which to beat anyone who points out their wrong. It can be shaped and molded to fit any circumstance and they use it to deny the work of the Holy Spirit without having to directly say it. They just point to their one size fits all constantly changing argument and they can claim ignorance when needed while beating you up over something you do not espouse. All the while making poor 'idiots' who trust God and are yet shallow to doubt both themselves and God. As I've always said, God will have his due.