[ksen]

Me: This passage says that if it were possible to fall away(lose your salvation) then the only way to "be saved" again is to crucify Jesus again.

the808bass: No it doesn't.

Oh, okay. I would like to hear what you think it is saying. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it.

Thanks, in advance.

-ksen

[SoothingDave]

Why would I wonder, these were the men who had known Christ in person, and they were the only men who Paul could compare what the Spirit had led him to teach, and what they were teaching, although it seemed foreign to them on how to deal with Gentiles.

Paul was given the Spirit, just like you or me, to "lead him unto all truth." Yet he had to go and check with the Apostles to make sure he was "on the same page" as them? How can this be? Do you think the Holy Spirit could have erred in what He told Paul?

SD

[JohnnyM]

ksen: This passage says that if it were possible to fall away(lose your salvation) then the only way to "be saved" again is to crucify Jesus again.

the808bass: No it doesn't.

"Oh, okay. I would like to hear what you think it is saying. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it."

You hit the nail on the head ksen, and I too am curious what bass thinks.

JM

[the808bass]

First, thanks for your participation in the forum. We always enjoy new contributors (have you been here earlier?)

The verses in Hebrews are addressed to believers who the writer is attempting to move on to Christianity. Keep in mind the early church was often a subset of the local synagogue. Many still retained a lot (if not all) of their Jewish beliefs and practices and added Jesus' teachings to it. John is addressed (I believe) to the same group. So, the writer wants the hearer to not be stuck only on the "foundation" of repentance from dead works, faith in God, baptisms, etc. These are all doctrines that Judaism and Christianity have in common. He wants them to move beyond their Judaism to "perfection."

He then addresses something far worse than remaining at a standstill in the Christian life. He is probably adressing readers who are losing the will to persevere (10:35ff, 12:3,12). More to come. Thanks for your patience.